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RE: Belief In Belief And What Makes Us Human (Featuring @kyriacos as author)

in #life8 years ago

Interesting point you make. But, one could argue for any quality that a human animal possesses, and declare it to be "the" thing that "eventually makes us human".

I can argue it is the understanding and salient valuation of morality and truth that "eventually makes us human", reaching greater heights of "human" potential. Belief in beliefs is certainly part of what makes us human, sure. But as for declaring it "the" attribute, aspects, property, quality, or characteristic that makes us "human"... not too sure about that. Peace.

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@krnel

it will be hard to argue morality since every single species has its own version of what we call morality. we cannot understand why and how othr species act and based on what premises since the environment is what determines our morality.

The atribute that makes us human is rather our premature births.

Do you think morality, right and wrong, are simply the whims of our social environmental conditioning that have us believe something is right or wrong for some people while it differs for others?

ofcource @krnel

For example Inuits of Canada sometimes eat their first born in the winter if they run out of food. Muslims stone people for punishment. Ancient Egyptians used to have sex with the dead.

Morality is just what a group a people decided to arbitrarily do in a specific place, under a specific timeframe. The most classic one is murder. If you are in war you are allowed to kill and crowned hero. If you are not in war you are a murderer.

You are confusing the ability of a consciousness to believe whatever it wants and justify any action as a "moral code". This is what moral relativism is, whereby anyone gets to decide what is objectively right/wrong, i.e. moral. Truth does not work that way. What is right and what is wrong does not work that way. Truth is what is. Moral truth is what is right and what is wrong. Anyone who thinks moral relativism is justified as an objective methodology for engaging in behavior is mistaken because of how they improperly recognize how most people are making up whatever they want to believe to be right or wrong based on their subjective preferences, wants, desires, inclinations, wishes, etc., compared to the objectivity of a rational mind clearly determining what is right and wrong because it is always right or wrong no matter the time or place, not based on personal whims and wants at the time or place.

The truth, reality/existence of principles of moral conduct does not waver and change depending on shifting geographical locations or time periods. Only consciousness chooses to manipulate and alter these foundations of concern for others as well as themselves to recognize the others and care for their interests as well. To accept moral relativism as a justified way of living, is to lack understanding of moral principles and accept the fallacy of pseudo-"morally" relativistic subjective wants and desires overriding an objective determination of correct moral conduct towards others. Peace.

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