Don't Be A Fool, Drop Out Of School! Advice To Young People On How To Live The Good Life

in life •  last year

Everything in our cult(ure) is a lie and meant to make you feel worthless, hopeless and make you into a cog in the machine tied to a death contract (in French, mort gage) for life and working nearly every day of your life at something you hate.

Of course, you don't have to fall for that trap. And it begins by dropping out of school immediately. I don't even care what school you are in. Life is the classroom. School is for suckers.

In today's "walk n' talk", I discuss what a scam school is and why it is the last place you would ever go if you wanted to get an education.

I then give some insights on what you should be doing if you want to live a great life.

You can see it here:

Please pass this along to anyone who is currently stuck in a school system. Get them out before it is too late!

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I'm a high school teacher (Spanish, Business Spanish, Medical Spanish) that introduced his class to cryptocurrency last year.

My students learn things and experience things.

We're not all brainwashers.

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Teach us on here instead. My children are going to skip high school. I wasted four years of my life in high school, and I would have been better off going straight to college. Heck, many of the classes you have to take over anyway.

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I showed my students Steemit and the power contained therein. Hopefully some of them have joined.

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@nepd A syllabus tells you how to get an "A", a good teacher helps you develops the skills to "kick A"!

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I hope they do too! It's a new world. Curiosity and effort are all that is needed to succeed.

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I agree with all of you - some teachers still spoon feed and some teachers teach kids to think beyond the books - I have this speech almost every day - you do not only have to do what I tell you to do you can figure out your own research and work. Just a pity we still have parents with the mentality of kids must have a rigid structure and I must talk for 30 min and kids will just study what are in their books bla bla bla - most of the time we have problem parents and inquisitive kids

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@finnian I can appreciate your experience, and the thoughts behind what you have shared. I was very involved, from the business club to music. The friendships and experiences I had couldn't have been replicated elsewhere, and I am glad I created those opportunities for myself.

That being said, I should have gone with my buddy to do every other day's school at the local community college, saving the other day for the fun stuff. If you do all the lower level classes for an engineering degree, you will have enough literacy and mathematics to supplement whatever it is you choose to pursue.

The other undervalued education today is vocational school. The economic freedom that is achieved early on my be capped by the lack of an advanced degree, but if you are an enterprising person, you can use what you have learned and your innate skills to be successful. The key is to find your passion(s), and learn everything you can to be successful in that.

I can't go back in time for myself, but I will make my own children aware of the opportunity that exists. That way, hopefully, they can avoid the feeling of "wasted years."

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You didn't need to go to school to meet friends and do social things though. My wife is always saying that the kids have to go to government schools to learn "social skills." No, no they don't. That's learning crowd and conformity skills instead. ;-)

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I agree finnian - social skills can be learned in many places

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Thanks! I worry about the other things school teaches way more than what the kids might not learn by missing it.

For example one of my middle son's teachers a year ago told him, "It's not right for one person to be more successful than another."

Bwah?! Don't be teaching that garbage to my child, communist! haha

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Whaaaaat? Ok that is just plain weird

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But I say again , there are sure some problem parents out there that are not following the open minded approach I am trying to teach my kids - the textbook said this and this and there is no room for we can actually figure out a few things for ourselves and questions can maybe have more than one answer

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@finnian it would have been better if cryptocurrency lectures be introduced into the educational system,but instead they keep introducing more scams called subjects....lol

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I'd be happy if they just taught economics, but they don't... on purpose of course.

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eish then I would be without a job hahahaaha - but I see your point - and yes many subjects I really also do not know what the function is - but on the other hand, nothing is stopping our kids to start thinking for themselves and investigating and throw away the eye patches

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Jeff's advice on dropping out from school is a huge claims, and i can see his point. But in my opinion, there's still things u need to learn and experience from school. You'll still need the basics, like language and a bit of this and that, calculation and stuff. Or else it would still be a big trouble for the parents to teach from scratch. Because not all the ppl are free from work or financial freedom. My point is, parents play an important role to guide your children to the right path. Constant communications and being an up-to-date parents so that the kids would look up to you, and not looking at you like you're some out-dated old folks who would just yelling at them for not doing this and that.

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There are other ways to learn Spanish than forcing kids to do it and forcing them into 12 years of indoctrination camps to do their pledge of allegiance. I learned Spanish in bed in Mexico. You should teach those who want to learn outside of skool where kids are held hostage.

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That's a very narrow view of things. Not all schools are like the ones you've experienced.

Not all students need high school, but it helps many get to where THEY want to be... not where you think they should be.

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I can feel the urge of jeff's trying to get the mass out from the brainwash shit he mention about. But at the same time, just like what @nepd said, not all students need high school, but it definitely helped a lot to get them where they wanted to be. Maybe I've had an really awesome time back in uni and highschool, i do see some of those who didn't really enjoyed it back then. MY grade wasn't grade, and later i found out what i've learnt so far, mostly were modified, especially history of my country - which is fucked up, but its ok, at least i know the truth now and i'll guide my children to the right path. But I think things like MATH and Language, let them learn from school should be fine. My point is that, we TAKE the good things from school, dump the bad ones, just like in life, we do that constantly dont we? :D

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No child needs schooling, private or government. You can tutor them, they can learn on their own, etc. There are many options. It at least should not be compulsory. I wonder why it is? Hmmm

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not only that. why should someone have to go to the other classes all day just to learn from one teacher who things outside of the marxist/keynsian box for one hour. Then a new semester begins with a new crew of gulag managers serving up remedial education to Western students who are falling behind in global standardized test scores against students from countries where the government does not run the k-12 system. So the argument that some teachers are actually teaching critical thinking and real skills is undermined by the fact that the institutionalized garbage that students are being inoculated with daily has effectively dumbed them down to the point to where they are ridiculed if they promote or suggest any idea which does not sync with the party line. Public education is little more than state religion.

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Duolingo is so DAMN good. I took some in high school for 3 years (the AP classes) and the way they structured it made me learn only BASICs. I'm almost fluent after 6 months on duolingo, 2 Escalofrios (goosebumps) books, Octonauts, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Yugioh in spanish. WAY better way to learn.

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Aren't you Canadian? But yeah agreed, teaching languages in schools is a waste of time. No one learns anything there. A month living in a country will be enough to learn a language.

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The brainwashing is institutionalized in the system through the required textbooks and curriculum. I'm sure your class is interesting but unfortunately 12 years of gov induced psychosis is too much weight for any one teacher to counterbalance. At some point students have been so effectively brainwashed from global warming being plugged in their science books to a complete lack of information about how the money system operates, even showering them with evidence will only create sparks of enlightenment in only the brightest students. A large number of students in high school are more or less prisoners forced into indoctrination in a marxist style institution and it is difficult for one teacher to contradict the propaganda on every point. Nevertheless, introducing critical thinking and raising doubts about many of their long held indoctrinated beliefs may be enough to get them investigating more. Unfortunately the brainwashing is institutionalized and a few lights in the tunnel is not enough to find the way out. The best way out is to drop out and get a GED then stop paying taxes in order defund this albatross that enslaves people mentally when they are young then financially when they enter the workforce.

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Yes there are some teachers that changed my life 4th grade teacher Mrs Johnson #1 Teacher

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We are not all brainwashed. Final!!

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None are more brainwashed than those who believe they were never brainwashed. I once heard a doctor say that in medical school, they teach you that half of the information is wrong, they just don't know which half.

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Alas, but you can not do without school. They teach not only physics and mathematics. They teach patience and skill to contact - with other students and teachers.

I agree that a good teacher is wonderful.

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We need more path breakers like you!

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there are thousands of excellent teachers and awesome students all over the place. Not everyone needs high school, but it serves some very well.

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@nepd The earliest forms of my negotiation and networking skills came from getting to know teachers, how they "tick", what limits I could push. While I wasn't the best student for most of my teachers, I had a good rapport with all of them.

Strangely enough, most of them saw what I was doing as a way of "taking initiative", though different than the usual "do all of the homework all of the time, pass the bubble sheet test and move up the grade".

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Yes. Basic education is required (wherever we get it from) to help us 'design' what we want according to our own conscious choice. However, education of modern times ends up conditioning people into limits rather than liberating them.

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In my opinion only 10% of students needs high school or collage. Everybody should be free to decide cos basically every kid hear from parents and teachers that they need to go to high school, they have to finish it etc.

BTW I have collage degree but if I would start over again I wouldnt go even to high school and that I will advice to my future kids.

Nice, that you do good job in education. Keep up good work its worthy and needed.

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nepd I also feel some kids are just not made for sitting in a class and study "what the book says" and they make a great success of their lives - we still have this narrow mindedness of you did not go to a "normal" school so you cannot make a success

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Keep up the good work

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Youtube and udemy are the new school. Free or pay a small fee = way cheaper, practical, and efficient. Why not travel the world while you learn? The truth is TEACHERS have all the power and they're stuck in an inefficient system. Look at jordan peterson. Making 30k a month posting his lectures on youtube!

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Super move

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I'm also a HS teacher and respect all my co-teachers but @jeffberwick do have a point. Yes @nepd not all teachers are brainwashers and some of us try to make our lessons more relevant. I am actually learning more about life and teaching by listening more to my students' backstories and finding out ways to make my lessons relevant to them.

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Although it's been a few decades since I was in high-school, I believe you are the exception rather than the norm nepd. For many, including myself, we look back on our school years and wonder, why the hell didn't you teach us things we could use in our everyday life?

Instead of spending years studying calculus and trigonometry, why not teach people how to budget, save and invest? Why not teach kids how to garden or how to cope with depression and anxiety? Or even, how to think critically in order to assess the truthfulness of mainstream media? These are just a few examples of life skills everyone should be taught from a young age.

Now, you may argue that these skills are best taught by parents, but many parents either don't have the skills themselves, don't have the time to teach their kids or assume the education system will include these topics in their curriculum.

I'll leave this video from boyinaband to demonstrate the frustration students have with the current education system

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Good job. Can't believe this thread.

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I'm a high school teacher (Spanish, Business Spanish, Medical Spanish) that introduced his class to cryptocurrency last year.

My students learn things and experience things.

We're not all brainwashers.

This! ☝️

Thank your for saying something out loud here that I was angrily thinking reading in my head reading this post @nepd. I'm so tired of the over generalized "school sucks" narrative I see pushed sometimes. I don't discredit people having negative experiences in school. But, I generally do discredit those who assume that everyone has such experiences and characterizes all education as "brainwashing".

School taught me to think critically about life situations and carefully weigh every side of an issue, not make overgeneralized assumptions about things of which I am not an expert. And that's exactly what I've taught my students as well.

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But - you will have to admit, that most of the successful entrepreneurs in our lifetimes - Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs - these are all people that have started their own businesses and have not gone down the traditional path of university/college/tertiary education that takes away 5 years of their lives.
I respect teachers and give them applause for so much of the patience they have to go through every day with this generation.
While students do learn and experience through tertiary education, they are not readily practiceable for life nor do they have the financial structures ready to be able to contribute something useful and productive to the world. Just my 0.01 steem worth 😊

SO so so true.
I am a 14 year old in high school and i hate it. Whats the point in learning Algebra and pointless things like that. Why don't people go out there and experience life, not cave up and follow stupid rules but have freedom and be yourself. This is very well said Thanks a lot for this post :) I Need to take this whole system where you are just working in to consideraion. Working for what? To get food? Bullshit you can get fresh fruit and veg cheap and eat healthily. Life is more than having a job sitting inside your whole life just for money. Experiance Life!

Thanks for this post :)

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The point in studying things like maths is that you can use it to make alot of money...and who doesnt want to be rich

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The unwise words of a 14 Year Old Boy.
Sounds like me at your age. If only I knew then what I know now.

I advocate Education
I Advocate Mortgages
I advocate working Very Very Hard

Even with all of the above i'm alot happier than the misguided abused Boy I was at 14.

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By all means have your words but don't call my opinions unwise words. Its what i think. You can have your opinion and ill have mine.

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How wise is a 14 year old, who sees that this world needs to be big enough to hold all of our opinions. If we could all accept that there is no ultimate truth, only opinions, then we could all live in harmony on this beautiful planet.

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Upvoting yourself doesn't make you right !!

Come and tell me different in 30 years.
I did and said exactly the same things the same as many others.

The Unwise words of a 14 Year old was a generalisation rather than pointed directly at you.

However because of your age you took it personally and got straight on the defensive.

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You advocate programming, being in debt your whole life, and working really hard at pointless things?

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I can only speak for the UK really. But we have two choices. Get in Debt to buy a house or pay Rent to someone else and make them rich. There isn't a 3rd option for us. Depending on your outlook and what you want in life a nice house isn't pointless to me, neither a nice Car etc. However when you do have a valid point is the time someone is terminally ill. THEN money and possessions are futile and pointless.

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No foreclosures over there? No renting individual rooms and living well below your means?

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Foreclosures or as we call them "Bankruptcy buys" are purchased by the wealthy and rented back to the poor for extortionate rates. My Neighbour Rents a 1 Bedroom House for £600 per month. The Average take home Wage is £1100. So over half gone !! For this he has to cram himself, wife and 4 Children into the small space.

Whereas yes I am in debt but I pay the same for a Mortgage on a 5 Bedroom House that in 25 Years I will own and pass down to my kids. Where my friend will no doubt be paying over £1,000 by that time.

A single room in the UK is approximately £400 per month.

We are such a small Island there just isn't the capacity to house the ever growing population. This was the main reason for getting out of Europe because the huge influx of people forced upon us.

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I bought a foreclosure, and I'm not wealthy. My mortgage is extremely low. There are ways to do it, but people have to live well below their means, have a lot more cash flowing in than out, and be smart about what they purchase.

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The problem is you're taught algebra and such but never told how you'd apply it as teachers know only how to teach the material. When your water pipe under the sink is leaking, you need math to figure out what size pipe you have. Otherwise you sit there feeling like a moron and buying random fittings that don't fit, or worse yet, devising contraptions to measure it. If you knew that during math class, you'd have paid more attention (I know I would have).

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You're exactly right. Why not actually teach people to apply math in every day life. Such as using measurements and fractions to replace a leaky pipe.

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You're young so many of the things you say you'll look back on and think a little different. That being said, I agree with your take on the matter. The only thing I'll tell you with certainty is algebra is the last math you'll ever need. Learn at least the basics of algebra because you really do use it much more than you think.

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It depends as usual. Do you want to do something that involves math? Then you'll need Algebra. Still, you can teach yourself on the Internet, and no teacher in a government school is needed.

What are you passions? What are your natural talents? If you don't know them already, go out and figure them out. Ask your friends what they think you are naturally good at.

Do your best to not waste your valuable time. It's your life after all. Tick tock, tick tock! I wasted 20 years of my life on a hamster wheel doing Information Technology work, and I hated it the entire time. Don't do what I did.

Follow your passions, set goals and achieve them, and learn things that are valuable no matter what you do (liberty, economics, languages, etc.)

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Well if you're advocating for freedom than I see where you're coming from. But algebra is not useless, quite the contrary actually. But I can understand why someone would hate it ;)

Unfortunately it is the law (enforcement by the state) to go to school (indoctrination by the state) until you're 18 at which time you are strongly encouraged to go to university (for more indoctrination by the state) to accrue a debt (you owe to the state) which if you are lucky (haha) will enable you to get a job (just over broke) and start to pay your debt back in taxes (theft by the state). One huge con! Time to opt out!

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Trapped 4 ever, experience is what we need...
why should future doctor waste time studying classic literature and history of culture...
I missed early days of Bitcoin, cuz of all school and Uni thing taking so much time...never had a chance to look into things...

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Exactly - that's what they want us to do - be so busy chasing our tails to make ends meet that we don't notice what's really going on ... until it's too late!!

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What state are you in? I'd look into it more closely. They don't want to help parents get around the system, but most states have a way around it.

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What you refer to is the middle-class trap to "fully participate" in school, then go to uni. It's not applied to the lower classes as they are ineligible to receive a chance at debt.

College is the hugest scam ever. A 1000% increase in tuition in the last 30 years? When will the madness stop? I'm sick and tired of young people being financially screwed for their entire life to get a piece of paper that isn't worth anything. On top of that they learn no work skills. Amazing how colleges are completely unaccountable for this. Ever more amazing all of your loans are guaranteed by Sallie Mae, you cant even get rid of student loans going bankrupt!

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Yes, thank goodness by eldest has decided that she doesn't want to get laden with debt and is going to opt out of the university ball and chain!

As a former high school English teacher I can tell you this: The school day is way too fucking long. The day is wasted away playing meaningless games, having parties in which the kids are fed a bunch of chemicalized junk food, pep assemblies, etc.... because what needs to be accomplished (supposedly)in a day can be done in a couple hours, not 7 or 8 hours. That is a fact. Parents, go follow your child through his/her school day no matter their age. You'll see what I mean.

Then there are those insane standardized test days where the poor kids have to literally sit for hours answering questions in writing. That is torture and should be outlawed.

Kids are kept in school for so long, as in so many hours and so many days and so many years and they're forced to start at such a young age, so that they can be fully brainwashed into thinking everything they see going on around them in society is normal. Like, it's normal to dress like a whore when you're twelve and drink soda with the neurotoxin aspartame in it and eat GMO'd "foods" like Doritos and to bow down to authority by asking permission to go to the bathroom and to get into debt, and that wearing pink clothing cures cancer, etc.... It's so surreal to me now. Back in the day, I didn't know better.

That said, I was the teacher who knew how to get creative with the state-mandated curriculum and my classroom was always the safe haven for the kids who didn't want to worship the damn jocks and cheerleaders at the pep assemblies or the kids who didn't want to eat in the gross cafeteria. There are good teachers out there, but they don't stay teaching for long.

And, people who allow the school to tell them that their child needs to be vaccinated in order to attend are being totally taken advantage of by the pharmaceutical companies. I have no idea why people comply with that one.

Also, almost all parents are using the public education system as a babysitter. Period. They go off to work all day so they can pay taxes to their master while their kids are being "looked after" at school. You would be amazed at how many kids participate in before and after school programs, meaning their parents drop them off before 7 in the morning and pick them up around 6 in the evening. And then they bring them to soccer or whatever practice and eat dinner in the car. It's no life whatsoever.

Now, on a more positive note. Kids today are totally different than we were, Jeff. You and I are about the same age. If their parents would just leave them alone by not forcing them to do a bunch of activities and by not forcing them down a certain path, these kids will manifest wonderful things for themselves. They are different from you and I. I see it. The key is that their parents, the ones who have been entrusted to guide these souls, need to wake up and not make them do what they did and what their parents did because "that's just what you do." The paradigm is changing. I see the institution of school as being gone in the very near future. It's archaic.

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That's pretty accurate. Parents don't want to have their kids at home because kids are inconvenient. They want to do shit like talk or play, which isn't all that desirable. Parents know that school is shit and boring and unproductive as we've all been there ourselves. It's not a surprise to them. Everyone knows, just no one cares because the alternative means that parents would be responsible for their children, which means they'll have fewer hours to play Warcraft or watch The Voice.

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It's true. I really admire the people who have said enough is enough and are "unschooling." Really, I don't see how typical schools will survive the next 5 years. Like I said, I used to teach and have since done a lot of volunteering, and teachers, administrators and students are burnt out. There's a teacher shortage for a reason.

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I'm not surprised the burnout is strong. We're planning on homeschooling ours. I don't believe in the unschooling movement myself simply because to me all that is is developing kids' natural curiosities and hobbies, which parents should be doing anyways.

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Absolutely we should be encouraging what our kids find interesting, as in what "they" find interesting. We're the guides on the side. I like unschooling because it is...more free. My kids are teens now and they learn and develop what resonates with them. They both were reading by age four because I read to them from the time they were infants. They didn't need to learn phonetics because they just absorbed the language. My 14 year old son is a way better writer than I am because he likes to write, not because anyone taught him how to write. My daughter is an incredible artist...self taught. She was hired to illustrate a series of childrens' books when she was 16. She's still doing it now. She was just "discovered." She's making money doing what she loves. When I was her age I was assembling burgers for Burger King.

I wasn't "awake" when my kids started school. When I woke up they wanted nothing to do with homeschooling or unschooling or anything like that. My husband and I stay on top of the curriculum, which is the insane Common Core. So, we're constantly pointing out absurdities. Fortunately both of our kids have had several teachers who overtly oppose Common Core. They've had some real decent teachers. But, if I had it to do all over again, I would unschool or home school. I don't like the herd mentality you see in schools and I don't like the propaganda. You're wise that you are going the home-schooling route.

On top of all of this, the time goes by so quickly. There's no need to be sending 5 year olds off to school. Kids should be with their parents, not sent off to some classroom where they will be lost in a sea of other kids.

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I understand now, you got Common Core where you are. It's literally annihilating the education system through stupidity. Everyone I know is either putting their kids into private school or pulling them out the moment Common Core infects their school.

tell all your friends to buy steem. tell them all the cool kids and hipsters are doing it

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Also when you Buy Steem don't be afraid to POWER UP !!!

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Man I wish I read this post earlier... I spent 4 years at uni wondering what was I doing and I ended up making a living out of the Internet... so yeah school was so useful, duh.

I think some schooling is good, but most colleges imo are overrated. It's better to get out in the world and make money than to be 100K in debt from student loans when you finally get out of school

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Yeah, there's a big difference between getting a STEM degree without any debt once it is done compared to a degree that is not in STEM with tons of debt left over.

i had the worst time in school system and couldn't wait to get out! i've learned more life outside of school. i also learned early on to be an entrepreneur and create a 'job' i can do around the world. and i did and do!

Love the advice as always Jeff! Thanks for doing what you do.

Hiya Jeff. I love your openness, Even if people disagree, Its real and you can work with that! You have probably heard of this guy but if you have time check out "David Siegel" He's the CEO of the new coin coming out. He's got some opinions in line with your's and probably most people following you.
Just a thought.
Love & Peace always. .

High school made my mind go dry. SO much useless cramming.

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I hated it. It was a COMPLETE waste of time. My oldest son was experiencing the same thing, so we pulled him out at 16 years old.

I totally agree Jeff. I think you can learn some things in school like socialization skills and basic math/reading but there are a lot of things that can't be taught in the classroom.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. If no one went to school there would be no doctors, or any other professional workers. This is a rich person who has lost touch with reality speaking without knowledge of what he is talking about. Just stick to the shemitah crap Jeff.

I mean Berwick thinks the world is flat so, maybe he should have gotten an education after all.

Jeff it was great to see you speak with Eric Dubay.
It is essential we educate ourselves with school, collage and university literature but must be able to step out the box and question what are our own thoughts and ideas that have not been pushed on us.

Its the height of ignorance to know and understand only one world view or one model when referring to our reality and the possible explanations. Only with the research and knowledge into other models and history can you compare, discern and reason with logic which fits your reality best. Scientism is a dogmatic branch of science which has its high priests and followers who blindly accept just about anything put forward without obeying the scientific method or practical experiments. People need to know the difference between pseudoscience such as astrophysics and real science we can actually perform as tangible, practical, repeatable and scaleable such as natural science.

With a few exceptions I learned most of what is valuable in life through self teaching, apprenticeships, and experience. If you need specialized training there are tons of options that don't involve sitting in rows and raising your hand to speak or ask permission to use the bathroom.
Intellectual growth begins at birth and ends... never.

Parents: home educate those children of yours. Vacate the indoctrination day camps.

Best thing I did was drop out of university.

Rapper?? Really?? Now I'm Interested we need to hear your songs

I hate school, We go there and lost 20years or more all of this juste to get a job! My freind make what the doctor make in 1years juste in one month, And i will be too soon, The point is if you can find the way and you are smart you will be better then doctor or anyone

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I just wish they would focus a little more about real life lessons, then shit they will never use in their lives!

Great video @jeffberwick !! Did you get a citizenship for Mexico or are you risking being deported like the guy from Australia?

Totally agree with you. I left school in year 11 in Australia and went and got a job. Thought school was a waste of time.

I agree School is for suckers!!! I actually learn more from just reading books then I ever did in a class room!

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Reading to learn, not to be entertained, is one of the keys to success! These days you can learn on the Internet too without reading an actual book.

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me too, ready and being self-thought has allowed me to be better than most in my chosen career. Now I am planning on setting up my own business.

Study hard, get a good job, get married, have kids. What more do you need??

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How about a life? lol.

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You forgot the most important thing: Pay taxes long enough to have children for them to pay taxes.

As usual, more great advice from Jeff Berwick. I have been telling people this for years. I dropped out of state run public schools when I was 16 and got a GED. Despite my low grades, as I mentally dropped out long before I took the physical leap, I was able to "graduate" long before my peers. A GED enables a student to have the credentials to enter a university. Ultimately, I earned 3 university degrees and certification from top US schools maintaining a high GPA with an academic record solid enough to apply as a PHD candidate in my field.
It is amazing that Westerners are forced to pay tax to support these indoctrination institutes known as public schools which, for many, are just preliminary steps before entering the welfare, prison, and government job systems. Anyone promoting public education has neither the experience nor the expertise to understand the complete failure of this economic leech that was developed by tycoons such as the Carnagies and Rockefellers to amalgamagte diverse cultures and install a uncritical working class while rewriting history to censor the domination of the West by multinational banks while promoting a marxist ideology ironically known as progressivism today. Meanwhile, the elitists who attend private schools maintain their economic hegemony as the public school sheep are left entering the workforce without realizing how the money system works nor having the level of mathematics or science to compete with up and coming countries like India and China.

Love your content @jeffberwick upvoting and I will be following you. My opinion on this matter, I agreed. Way to many useless info is been taught at school. And not only here in the United States, back in my country, Dominican Republic its the same thing, but in Spanish.

Call me an ignorant, by why should I care about things that won't help me make a living?; geometry, history, science etc were useless for me. The only math that I've need in my life is addition, subtraction, division, and multiplication. I don't remember the last time that I had to find the value of X in any of my jobs.

Teach science to kids that are interest in it and want to learn about it, don;t for the others kids to participate in classes that they couldn't care any less about. Same with history, I've learn a lot of things because I'm interest in it so I do my own research and learn about it. Like blockchain technology, cryptocurrency trading, even Steemit. I spent 10+ hours yesterday just reading articles and watching videos on how to make valuable steemit posts and how to use automation services.

Just my humble opinion.

Don't let school ruin your education! Mark Twain.

I agree with Jeff. School is awesome for 99% of people if they want to become a modern day slave for the rest of their lives.

However, we do need doctors, scientists, some educators etc etc...... I'll let other people do that for me :)

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Without the pathetic AMA, licensing (control system), and other modern day changes though, you would still have doctors. People would apprentice like they did in the old days. STEM degrees currently almost require a college degree, but everything else? Go the the library, go do it, or sit down in front of a computer. It's all there! :)

I did it :)

Very interesting post and honest talk, thanks

Totally agreed. Home schooling is the way to go in the future and it has already taken up in many Western countries.

Stay in school kids, you will be glad you did. Become a doctor, a nurse, or a scientist. Maybe you will even become the computer programmer that writes the code for the next Steemit hardfork! College grads out there, feel free to waste one of your upvotes on me if you agree. :-)

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I work in IT and get paid very well. About half the people I work with do not have a college degree. My "Computer Networking" degree was the EXACT Microsoft exam material. In other words, I didn't need my degree. I needed the certification and knowledge. IT people do not need college to succeed.... especially coders!

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Thanks for the comment Finnian and I totally agree with you. I'm glad that the IT certifications that you needed did not require a degree. My profession is not like that. You have to have the degree in hand before you can even take the boards and obtain the necessary certifications. I think it is total BS that you need the degree if you are able to pass the boards without it but it is a reality for my profession and too many others. College was a magical and transformative experience for me. To tell our young potential doctors, veterinarians, and engineers to drop out or consider not going at all just seems wrong to me. However, I did learn about the book, "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin from Jeff Berwick's youtube channel, "The Dollar Vigilante" and not from college. I also learned about Steemit from him as well. I am very grateful to Jeff for all that he has taught me but I do disagree with him on this most recent article.

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Once a person can read, they can teach themselves most things. Tutoring, apprenticeships, and other options are also available. Heck, here in Virginia, they have a "Law Reader" program to skip law school even. You just study under a current lawyer to avoid the huge expense.

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Very true. Wow, I can't believe that about Virginia! Bar exam, here I come. :-)

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I considered doing it. Once I became a PI some fellow PI's recommended I do it even. It isn't my passion though. Residential security is.

I tell people to learn a profession, a trade, economics, and at least a second language. If you do all of those things, you are assured success. You don't have to go to college though to make those things happen. It definitely doesn't require debt either.

Some STEM professions though require a degree due to licensing or other garbage though. It should not be that way however. Look at what licensing has done to the medical profession for example. A lot of them are just high paid drug pushers (no offense to the free market business people out there).

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Education is important< I think everyone needs the first 10 to 12 years . After u can read and write and u don't feel like going into a specific career then drop out and do what u like/enjoy. It is important to be at least literate and read widely. I agree about those student loans though...all scam. Thanks for sharing :)

Interesting point of view.

The secret to have a good life , first step is to finish school, its the best thing to do when your young and thats bring you to a goof life

Keep up the good work u make sense of this crazy world and whale ppl up thanks

Jeff we love you and your post and we will always keep you in our prayers

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I get that Steemit is a place for libertarian ideas - but it also needs to be a place for everyone else if it is going to grow.

The idea that school is stupid - to put it bluntly - is stupid.

Sure, I get that some people have had a bad experience at schools. I get that some schools are bad.

Doesn't mean the whole system sucks. Certainly not globally. And you have a global audience here. There are great schools and great education systems, and just because many Americans believe in small government (so small that it can't afford to fund good schools and produce great education outcomes for everybody) doesn't mean that the whole idea of school is a bad one.

Thanks for posting!

Everybody should buy steem as its very good and the community is awesome! Resteemed!

Great post ! Great advice !

I resigned from my place of work to become steemians and a cryptocurrency trader. My school certificates is useless now. Schooling is wasting of precious time.

I have to admit, you are right. I believe that people nowadays need education and not college. Putting yourself to what you said "death contracts" is not worth it. I believe, experiences for example, like traveling the world is much better than being trapped in the so called "Death Contracts".

Yes.. Yes.. YES! I can relate! I am dropping out this year (turning 16 shortly) I am going to pursue my programming career, and I am the SteemSports GM and I have zero time to attend school. Perfect explanation Jeff. Perfect.

Love it, great advice; just to add a bit, certifications are so much cheaper and now a days that's what employers want to see. Most don't give a crap about degrees, because most degrees don't teach you a thing about the job you go out and get.

Hi thanks @ jeffberwick for your opinion pertaining education but let us be realistic a bit we do need education as much as we need to learn from the school of life as well since you can not move around and manage your own business when you don't know how to read and write,also education is a platform of knowledge that will enhance you to manouver in life easily but also life is not all about education life is more than education since i have witness people who have succeed in life even without education,so please my advice to young people is let us balance our education with our other side of life let us not be enslaved in school but instead enjoy learning and the other big picture of life after school ok.

I flunked 11th grade and never finished high school & I am definitely proud of it, but I have to say the pressure to go back and graduate was immense. I saw firsthand the indoctrination and brainwashing among my family members and relatives when it comes to education degrees.

It didn't matter that I made more money than all my friends, that I loved my job or that I was actually of value to the world - no, I was the high school dropout...and that was apparently bad.

nice vid! i think u dare a lot and get rewarded for that. i am sure we can learn so much from u!

I feel bad for many of the folks posting comments here that feel ripped off by an education system. I gained a ton of knowledge and social skills through both self-education and formal education. Suggesting dropping out of school is extreme to me, but this is coming from someone that wouldn't be where I am today if I didn't get a college education. That being said, I'm sure many institutions out there are cleverly designed cash grabs.

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I think it depends on what you want to do. The current system almost requires a degree for STEM jobs. It shouldn't be that way, but that's how it is. If you don't want to do a STEM career though, why waste your time?

My son went straight to college at 16. He has a 14 year old in his school with him. I work with a man who's son went to college when he was 12. That dude is super smart though. My younger children will skip high school completely.

My daughter used to be a happy and fun-loving little girl. She was sent to public school because her mother (my ex) insisted. Not surprisingly, the courts agreed with her decision over my desire to homeschool.

We got a message from her teacher when she was in 3rd grade, saying that she has this wonderful thing she does where she goes out during recess and teaches a "kung fu" class. The teachers were amused at the antics, and my daughter came home with fun stories and hilarious pictures of their kung fu moves.

After about a week, the school contacted us and told us that we needed to get her to stop doing kung fu classes. When we asked why, they answered "because she has over 30 students in her class and it is disrupting recess time".

It was clear that our daughter was a born leader. She started many businesses during elementary school - she even had friends from her 4th grade class as "employees".

This spirit of leadership, entrepreneurship, and doing what you love was swiftly crushed by the authorities - who saw her numbers grow to numerous and like the Pharaohs of old decided to punish her.

Today that little girl is gone. She starts high school in the fall, broken, angry, depressed, and lost. Her leadership qualities are gone - she is now a follower of trends. She is no longer her self.

Her grades are bad - even in subjects she loves... she has no ambition. They have destroyed her.

With any luck, she may go to college so she can study business and learn some leadership skills - all it will cost her is a lifetime of debt.

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My middle son is a born leader. His grade school drilled that OUT of him in a hurry. It enrages me to think about it.

My first real wakeup call was when I saw my first prison movie "Escape from Alcatraz". Way before I saw this movie I felt that something was way off. After seeing this flick I dramatically wanted to escape anything that looked like school but felt like a prison.

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Completely agreed! I've told you before Jeff, the best thing I ever did was drop out of school in 9th grade. Today I'm my own boss, love life and I fill my life with knowledge and information. :)

Drop out kids!

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Imagine how much more peaceful our world would be if children didn't spend so much time in government schools.

I barely passed the 10th grade, I ended up having to resort to getting a GED after that due to past truancy and custody issues (at 17-18....) trying to enroll into a new school and being denied.
Supposedly the GED tests are more difficult than the high school graduation exams. I aced the GED and scored well above average in all subjects.
Now what does that tell you of the Public Education System?

I just dropped out of college and am going to travel around Mexico and maybe central america. Wish me luck!

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remember the day that this man ruined your life

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Congratulations. You still need to learn skills the market considers valuable. What do you plan to learn, or do you not know your passions yet? If you really are traveling around, make sure you get Virgil's "Cell 411" app and add some trusted friends to your network. Then you can alert people if you need help!

Yeah i feel i become more poor and go to hard parts in my life because of my university years but somes stuff i dont regrets, but if i have to restart i will travel and start a business...never too late they said lets see in few years,...

you learn absolutely nothing at school.

keep up the good work Jeff

TDV!!!Good information Sir keep up the great work

"drop out of school to become successful" is also a lie, not everyone is lucky

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Luck has nothing to do with it. Working smartly has everything to do with it.

thank you for your share

I don't vote, i don't work, but I do my homework, sometimes it really feels like you arounded by idiots.Same time they say I'm crazy, THX for saying the magic word = Then everything is fine!
I have 2 years old daughter and i hope i can crow up my finance the way that I can take her away from this SCAM before she even start school!!!

Greetings from Finland-not best place to be but home is home, and your home is where your heart is and family is your heart.
I hope to get my heart with me when time is come.
All the best for all steemians!
Your free life is your own hands, and sometimes to do nothing is best way to reach your goal

are you a fool...?? the idea is to tell youngsters to grab as much information as they can ... study, analyse it and then make a smart decision ... It looks like you are a person that is successful BECAUSE you made your own choices based on info you had at hand .... telling every body else what to do nop I disagree... cheers ...

I don't think it is a good advice. I will never advice my teens drop school or college. As a mother, I a major player in their education and take care very serious about brainwash. Good life is not only have a lot of money ... the experience and the sense of MISSION in this life is more important because it bring HAPPINESS AND LOVE...this is my experience ...

I 100% agree with this. I taught as an Adjunct Prof for a year for incoming freshmen at the Art Institutes - what a fucking SCAM - total BS - designed to get people in debt - My friend was getting his associates at the local city college - again a total SCAM in moral relativism BS. you could learn more by reading books and experiencing life yourself - DEBT FREE.

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Wait, you didn't need a college degree to become a skilled artist!? That's impossible. /sarc

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EXACTLY! No. I don't think I learned much in school - I had a GREAT high school art teacher that taught out of Betty Edward's book. They did that again in my BFA - my BFA was GREAT but mostly we did a lot of partying with our prof's - and then I learned intuitive painting from a weekend workshop with an artist/art therapist... and the rest was practice - I had FUN in my MFA because they had equipment like video, imaging and performance stuff that I can't afford - protools, etc but again, I just played with that stuff to learn it and had fun... so no - school anymore is BS - back in the day I think it was valuable - but I was not taught critical thinking except for writing - I have had to teach myself that and apophatic inquiry - I have had to teach myself that as well - so yes @finnian - I think you are onto something!!!

Great words of encouragement I follow all of your points.... I went to college in High school which gave me a taste of the crap to come, in turn which led me to drop school and go down the road of skilled jobs, family, and traveling, as well as learning about the health of human body to stay strong independently from medicala systems. I love that I started my family young I am just struggling to find that stream of income freedom that's independent of a boss and time clock, the 9-5 US standard is the continuation of the indoctrination of our youth thru the education system. Recently, I was re- introduced to bitcoin and crypto by a friend and I'm so excited to have an investment opportunity that's a source of hope for financial freedom. I have been to Puerto Rico and Hawaii with my family trying to establish a home outside the continental US but those 2 places were still too connected to US systems and more of the same BS... but I learned a lot in the process and now we are in San Diego "americas finest city" it's a beautiful location but majorly inflated.... I worked here full time trying to establish family here and I did real estate school and paid thousands for a state cert and member fees but after meeting and dabbling a bit in the industry the lying and busy-ness didn't seem like the road I'd want to continue so I cut my losses and recently we have been looking outside the states again And Mexico looks very tempting, ultimately I would like the freedom to travel anywhere we feel the whim while teaching or "world schooling" our 6 children. I will keep investing as much as I can in to my family, bitcoin and crypto, online business. I see this as a good goal...as soon as I have the money to buy passports for all 8 of us I am ready to sell my dads truck and cross the border!!

Any financial suggestions/recommendations would be greatly appreciated👍
Thanks !!

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Put Costa Rica on your list to consider too. I'm looking into it.

It's not about what you learn; it's about what that little piece of paper with your degree on it can do for you. I sorely regret not having the chance to get a professional degree. I regretted dropping out of high school, and completed it the same year (only a few months later). If you don't enroll in useless programs such as arts degrees (outside of actual art history which enables people to detect forgeries), there is a lot that staying in school can do for you and society. If everyone drops out, we won't have engineers, doctors, dentists, veterinarians, and even modern farmers. That little piece of paper can mean getting a job, even when you are dumb as brick. If you have the chance and don't use it, you're a complete fool.

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I value education, just not what it's become (I'm more of a classicist). As it is, most really is useless. I agree with you to some extent.. but also just wish that the piece of paper could ALSO ACTUALLY MEAN SOMETHING. You know? Guh. So frustrating--having a university education used to mean you were educated. Now it just usually means you paid overpriced tuition fees for years on end.

GoodDay Steemians!

All applications for any type of loan is committing a fraud upon you. No full disclosure give to you. Stop paying that debt!

  • CULT(ure) is a lie meant to make you uninformed.

  • (sch)FOOL system teaches slaves/citizens to be good workers(slaves)

  • Death contract (in French mean's mort gage) to enslave.

  • Media paid PRESS(titudes) distorts and lie's without consequence.

Life is Education, Don't be a fool and stay in school, SUCKER!

"I pity the fools"

These days both parents need to work full-time to pay the bills, so even if they wanted to home school the kids, they couldn't. The state (and the media) now 'owns' your kids minds and can pump their head full of misinformation at school - the school teachers are filling their minds with all sorts of cr@p... almost seems its planned this way! cheers

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Ugh. It's horribly true. My sister homeschools her kids and I know a few others.. but it's hard to make it work--almost impossible. I loathe state control of everything--it's worse in Canada. Xx, Kay

Life is good when you think positive, and life is bad when you think negative. It's all how you look at things in life.
Education is important in certain fields. I agree that Engineers and Doctors need to get their education, but others can be educated through many other sources.
There is so much great stuff that can be learned online if you can sort through the crap. You have to find what interests you.

well said....school education was a joke :)

Sorry, but I totally disagree.
However I can only speak from a UK standpoint.

I came from a broken home and skipped out a lot of School.

I totally regret it now i'm much older.

A Mortgage doesn't faze me as my family needs a roof over their heads and a good inheritance.

Personally I think it's each to their own really.
However perhaps I do walk around with my eyes closed. But I don't subscribe to all this conspiracy theory nonsense that I read about.

I am a huge advocate for education, but education is not what we get anymore. Real (classical) education in a classical sense is about forming a person to be their best, happiest, most successful self. I'm talking excellent literature and real philosophy and things that are geared toward HUMAN formation--things that are valuable in and of themselves.

School now is just about indoctrination and trying to melt the brains of everyone so they will willingly fill their little role in society without complaining too much.. and even rendering people incapable of actual thought and leaving them somewhat anemic in terms of responding to the problems of our day. I was painfully bored through my years in the school system--and it almost succeeded in ripping the life out of me. Almost.

I've been able to receive some of that real education since, but wow.. the rest was an utter waste of time, aside from a couple of wonderful teachers. I hardly learned anything outside of those teachers, and I feel like it just took most of my youth.

At least I could tell it was stupid and didn't follow the regular path of my peers, who studied stuff they hated in university in order to NOT get a job in their field. I hand-picked my higher education and loved it. Still broke, but I would have been even if I had followed the regular path. Instead, I'm broke but spent years in Europe and learned to think and am able to fight to live the life I want as an artist, writer, and singer-songwriter because I haven't cared about society's rules for a long time.
XX, Kay

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In a nutshel,all school does is waste our time!

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I have been striving my whole life to achieve my ideals regarding The Education System. Now, I seek to teach through film-making. The journey itself is quite enriching.

I'm stuck in the school system as an educator!!! trying to get my way out

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Perhaps you can find an opportunity with https://www.ronpaulcurriculum.com/ or a similar education resource. I hope you find a better way to be an educator.

Education and blockchain may have more parallels than you think.

1.) In school, value is tokenized through grades.

2.) In school, your work is not rewarded relative to its profitability, but in a meritorious vacuum (although the person grading it is a centralized authority)

3.) School is a great equalizer providing equal access is provided.

For these reasons, I support institutionalized learning.

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This is possibly the dumbest thing I've read in years.

The simple fact is that school is a way to force conformity and we are all stuck...unless we figure out what we really want and how to live a good life. First off we need to respect our elders more and learn all we can in terms of handi-crafts and food production. I make an entry level wage for a job I love, and if I didn't have student loans I could build a fortune with it. My Red pill was when I discovered Homegrown Revolution and heritage farming-the original courses of life. Learn to grow your own food and you have freedom, learn to build something and you have power. I make an entry level wage for a job I love, and if I didn't have student loans I could build a fortune with it. Plus, with a healthier diet and a happier life, you lessen the need to go to a doctor.

I totally agree school is real prison let's live a good life enough of this ;)

A worthless piece of paper for the majority, but not all of course. Student loans are a life term prison sentence for many with no hope of parole.

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A friend of mine has 80K in debt from getting his PA license. He did IT work with me for years and switched. Now he has that huge anchor around his neck and pays about 1K a month every month for... how long? It's a long time. I don't believe it was worth it, sorry.

There are ways to go to college though without going into debt. I finished my degree by having an employer pay it for me as one example.

My degree is in Computer Networking. You and @jeffberwick are right though. I didn't need it to do my job. However, having it helped me get and keep jobs. The jobs I have gotten have been higher paying too.

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Whatever happened to apprenticeships?, earn to learn and you have a skill at the end of it, an employer should pay for the education of its employees.

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Well, you know the answer already, but you cannot have a corporatist/fascist control system with apprenticeships. ;-)

It is easy with licensing though!

Solid post! I too have been advocating that people rethink blindly going to school. I believe education is invaluable absolutely, but don't necessarily feel that said education must be attained in a classroom (the exception being specialized fields e.g. Engineering, Medicine, or other licensed professions) . I worked out of Highschool until I found what I wanted to do and don't regret it at all. I learned a lot and enjoyed the engineering field while I was in it and ultimately was able to grow my farming operation (pun intended).

I am sure that a lot of people in the education system have good intentions, but unfortunately I don't know is 'school' ever really prepares you for life. The day to say challenges, struggles, issues that we all face and it seems like every day after we finish 'school' we learn so much more...

You can grow a lot culturally and critically by going to a university (obviously depending on the classes you take) as long as you want it and enjoy it. The problem is that nowadays going to college is a pre-requisite to be "someone". Just to help you to define yourself. If that's the reason you're there, I totally agree! Drop it, don't waste your days doing something you don't like just to reach society's expectations. Go do something you really enjoy it!