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RE: Vlog 312: Steemhunt, vote bots, incentives and why they need SMT's.
Steemhunt may bring the SBD price higher as many would try to be on Steemhunt top 10 list by using vote bots.
Steemhunt may bring the SBD price higher as many would try to be on Steemhunt top 10 list by using vote bots.
The system is flawed. This will undermine the reviews imo and put the project in danger.
To be honest I read the post from steemhunt but I fully understand how it works. But seeing your resteem and this comment triggered me for another reaction.
Do I interpret correctly that you can basically buy the upvotes from steemhunt and make a profit on it?
I don't see this easily back in their upvotes. As they have 466 upvotes in the past week.
Their steemhunt bot votes on Hunts based on the number of upvotes (and perhaps pending payout). Sooo what do you do? Go buy a load of votes from SmartSteem or MinnowBooster, great!
Another defeat for the 'wisdom of the crowd'.
:/
How would you tackle this Asher?
Until something like GPT comes in (which I'm not sure couldn't be gamed in a similar way) I'm honestly not sure what the solution is...
They are building a team of moderators at the moment, if they decided the Top 10, maybe, but that could be a lot of work and lead to corruption.... Sigh...
Thanks for asking 😁
First I should probably say that I appreciate what these guys are doing, and the idea of air-dropping through delegations is pretty cool.
Perhaps they've arrived just a little too soon though with the curation automation and it being dependant on people's good faith.
I spoke to them in their discord about it earlier and mentioned that I think they need to curate manually for now. Even if the bots can be scripted out (not easy with MB and SS and vote sellers not on the market, creating a bunch of accounts and voting with those might be even harder to spot.
@dmania had issues like the above, but I think dtube and @utopian-io (although not perfect) with their manual reviews, and scoring in the case of @utopian-io is probably the way to go for now.
As you say, corruption in the ranks is the next issue, and so their team need to be selected well.
Perhaps a blind scoring system off-chain by the mods would be an idea. The vote bot then decides based on this how to distribute the votes.
They have the delegations now and so will probably want to act quickly, hotline to @elear and team first I think - I'm sure they will have some lessons learned to share.
All IMO, feel free to shoot - we earn crypto for it 😁
Thanks for replying! I always enjoy our little chats.
I think you might be right... it's tough... it's just the two guys and they've been bubbling along nicely for a while now, and then pretty much jumped 200k SP overnight... and they've been busy developing and bug-fixing. Manual curation requires a whole infrastructure in place, and with over a hundred entries daily, it's a big task but I think ultimately you're right... there's two many variables to account for otherwise.
I don't think MB and SS are crazy hard to figure out... (until people start masking their wallet entries or submitting from other/other accounts).
Yup. Utopian had the scripts to try to tackle bots, then they went to scoring by mods/contributors who each have a weight/rank dependant on 'skill' level. I think they are fairly happy with this approach.
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