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RE: Libertarianism and Mining GORP (Trail Mix) [about to hit 9k follower!!!]
Respectfully. Water can be created. I have done it in the lab many times. Chemical reactions can form water. That is simple science. Also. The infrastructure is already in place. I’m not paying for the infrastructure as you suggested. It is already there. It is low maintenance. You are wrong. I am paying for the water. I am paying for bottled water when i buy it. Water is not free. I dont have access to water from a lake. So i have to buy my water. This water has a price. Stop arguing the same point that I’m making which is that we have to pay for water. Is your argument that governments should allocate water for free? Not charge anything for this water?
No, im saying that things that have a cost can be sold. So, the cost If creating an infrastructure to transport the can be charged. Not the water itself.
For you to have that bottled water you are paying the cost If transport and filtering that water, plus the bottled costs, plus the comercial costs, plus the profit.
Water still remaing Free. The way the water gets to your hands os what create the cost and price.
Also, Basic chemical law: nothing is created, enverything is transformed.
If possible to transform particles in water in large scale there would be a cost and effort in doing so, therefore, It wouldnt be free.
Water in natural state remains Free.
No sir. That law is for energy or matter. Chemicals are most definitely created through reactions. But you are over complicating things. Water simply is not free. Maybe i should have specified clean water is not free. Because sure you can go down to the river and drink some water. But you’ll get sick. Ill revise my argument and say “CLEAN water is not free”
Yeah, sure. You Win.
Now Go study a bit about How pricing Works.
I mean... pricing works in many ways sir. Maybe you should be the one studying. Because it seems you dont have any idea what you’re talking about. The fact of the matter is that clean water is not free. If it was free, then people would have easy access to it. I implore you to go look up the United Nations statements about water being a commodity. I also implore you to look up how water can be made chemically. I also implore you to go look up how water gets from one place to another and tell me how the cost of that relates to how high water bills are. You are paying for the pipes and shit. You are paying for the water. It is the only variable that accounts for the price of a water bill. I’m sure that you seem to misinformed and should look more into water being “free”
“Fresh water IS a limited resource. You Mat not think It is only because its easy to Just open a faucet and let the water flow.”
This is what you commented to someone else. So this is supporting my view that water is not free. Because when you have a limited supply of a commodity, the price goes up. Why else is water more expensive nowadays? Is it because the pipes are somehow newer? No. Obviously they aren’t, so the only thing that accounts for this is that water is becoming more scarce driving the price up. Simple supply and demand economics sir. The price of the pipes aren’t going up. That doesn’t even make sense. Reevaluate your argument. And the amount of fresh water that is naturally occurring is fixed like you also said to someone else. But science is providing ways to CREATE water. You should look into science laws and theories as well since you confused the law of conservation of energy and matter with chemicals. Water certainly can be created and i have done it multiple times. But also, desalination plants take salt water and make it fresh water that can be used for drinking. This is going to make the supply of fresh water expand since we can now transform salt water to fresh water. Look into that as well. You are arguing that pipes and infrastructure are the cause of the price of water. But it isn’t because the cost of that is nowhere near equal to what a water bill shows.
Hard to debate with someone that think that a resource that is freely aviable, cant be a limited resource.
Wonder If you would say the same If you were on the lower end of a manipulated market...
Oh wait... you already talked about this on the Free market of steem where anyone can use their accumulated Power flag Any post they dont like.
Is It unfair? But It is a libertarian Free market right?
But i really do like the discussion and debate/argument. I would like more people to be engaged like this on steemit. Most people give you a “great post!” Reply
I’m just telling you how it is. Water costs money. Period. End of story. Don’t try to tell me about being at the low end “of a manipulated market” when you dont even know me or my life. Really. Like your argument is flawed. But dont attack me for it.
Wasn't an ad hominem attack. Just didnt wanted to cite an overextended steemit drama, where you where directly affected by having posts flagged.
Thats the biggest fail on the libertarian argument. Free market and no laws os always good when you are on the side that get the benefits, but when the table turn, demand fairness of the rules.
Steemit as It is os designers and working as a Free market, where the ones with more influence/Power decides what should recieve rewards.
And water is still Free. Processing water is not.
Also, keep debating.
Lol. I look forward to more debates my man! I followed you. We shall meet again lol