Good News from the Lindsay Advocate

in #life6 years ago


About 5 o'clock this morning I had considered posting about how teledildonics will change the way that people might interact physically in the future (future is now). About 7 o'clock this morning I had considered posting about "Why I Hate Islam" but having nothing to do with the belief system but more importantly how the Canadian government has Motion 103 which is less about our Canadian culture of Acceptance and more about a Government wanting to dictate what people are "allowed" to think and discuss as well as giving some individuals a way of lining their pockets with millions of dollars.

Thank goodness for the Lindsay Advocate. They have given me an opportunity to meta-report about Universal Basic Income (UBI). While I cannot discuss first hand experience with the individual noted in the article I can comment on how people in real life compare to the anticipated negative effects of UBI.

1 - Incentives Work, Handouts Don’t

Incentives are a powerful force. And there is no greater incentive than financial security and holding a job is essential to that end. When something comes easy, it is easily taken for granted. And while it would be nice to believe otherwise, giving cash handouts to every American incentivizes them to try that much less.
By removing the financial incentive to work, the state is encouraging idleness, something contrary to the entrepreneurial spirit so deeply woven throughout our country’s history.
During the Clinton era, the welfare state saw tremendous decreases. But that didn’t mean there were millions of Americans struggling to get by. Employment actually increased because individuals were incentivized to get jobs when there was no longer a guaranteed safety net.

Response:

“I prefer to work. For one thing, I work to get me out of the house, and it’s a little bit of extra income during the week,” she says, since they pay weekly.
“Then I’ve got some each week to live off of. Plus, I don’t believe in taking anything for free. I feel better for working because I contribute to myself and it helps with my depression to get out.”

There is a difference between an incentive and desperation. Going to work is more than just a means to get money. There are many other things involved including social interaction and personal self esteem. While some people might reduce or stop the amount of work they would do, they would devote themselves in other areas (volunteering in hospitals etc). Adding the UBI to this person's income did not diminish the number of hours that she worked, even though it doubled her monthly take home. Consider if you personally received a raise at work. Would you reduce the number of hours?

2 - Quality of Life

Quality of life is often ignored in the current discussion. There are millions of people currently on benefits whose life is miserable. Extending the idea of welfare to all under the guise of UBI we are in danger of extending misery. There are certainly many who would prefer to live poorly, as long as they do not have to get up in the morning and do any work.

Response:

“Even mentally I feel better,” says Munro, “because I know I still have some money in my bank account” later in the month. “Before it was a constant battle of what do I pay first and what do I let go. Sometimes I didn’t have enough food, so I’ve had to use the food bank quite often,” she says. Munro, who has lived in Lindsay for 26 years, says basic income has had a “tremendous impact” on her life. “I’m now able to pay my rent and bills in full, and on time.”

I apologize but sometimes I need to shake my head: "There are certainly many who would prefer to live poorly, as long as they do not have to get up in the morning and do any work." No people do not prefer to live poorly even at the expense of getting up in the morning and doing work. People prefer to live richly at least in emotional sense. Poor people do not enjoy having bill collectors on the phone and landlords at the door.

3 - It will increase inflation

It will increase demand, and thereby in some cases prices, for the types of goods people will suddenly be able to purchase.

Response:

Munro says it used to be “so hard” to take care of all the bills, from hydro to heat. She would have to make arrangements to pay small amounts and then it was difficult to catch up.
This was also the first year she was able to buy Christmas gifts for her children and grandchildren in recent memory.
“And when I shop for groceries, now I can buy fresh produce for the first time. I’m still cheap when I shop, but it’s nice to have a few more options,” she says.

People who talk about thinks like inflation or supply and demand curves annoy me because they often only have a rudimentary concept of economics. To start with people define (incorrectly) that inflation is caused by too many dollars chasing too few goods. In reality inflation is a function of full employment. There is an almost infinite amount of goods available in contrast to the increase of available money. People only need so much toilet paper (heat and hydro). While in most cases people will go for better ("I can buy fresh produce for the first time") people also move more and more into investment (" I still have some money in my bank account").

4 - It's hard to pay for it.

There is no response for this mainly because it is a question of choices.

The government pilot wants to test how a basic income might help people living on low incomes better meet their basic needs, while hoping to see improvements in:
food security
stress and anxiety
mental health
health and healthcare usage
housing stability
education and training
employment and labour market participation

Right now the Canadian government spends multiple billions of dollars on various departments which are self perpetuating and ever increasing but questionable in nature. The ministry of Canadian Heritage is one of those areas. The question should be what is more important ... allocating money to promoting sports (I am singling out this expenditure for any reason other than it is the least politically sensitive one) or ensuring that each person in Canada receives $1 per month which could be used to buy a coffee. Some people chose to support the Olympics but I prefer the coffee.

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Good post! It kills me to watch Canada blow so much money over an over. Our money!

While not the only way, I agree that basic income should be "tokenized" but I don't think Manna is necessarily the route that is necessary. I believe that each community should have its own coin due to the fact that a basic income in Toronto is different to a basic income in Old Crow where it costs $2.00 to buy what costs $2.00 in southern communities.
Having a centralized coin like Manna is excellent as a case study but having coins decentralized gives an added depth to a currency. Just as you need to spend your Canadian Tire Dollars only in Canadian Tire stores, Old Crow coins would only have value in Old Crow. As this particular community has heavy associations with the mining industry, they produce a product which has value in the south (and virtually no value where they are). If all revenues are needed to be paid in "Old Crow Dollars" an exchange effect happens as the only source of this currency comes from the people themselves. Withholding the currency from an exchange increases its value relative to the "Toronto Dollar".

Wow valid points! Maybe the Steem token generator will help in this. Let's keep this conversation going!

There is a community (Shakespeare) which is close to you. Perhaps this is a project which @bleedpoet might also consider joining in on. Link to one of your posts he commented on here.

The advantages to targeting this community:

  • It is proximal to you (as a support person) but also to Steemians in the Toronto area
  • Roughly 1000 people
  • Limited number of retailers who might be open to having access to additional sales due to an influx of cryptocurrency users (Steemians).
  • There is a credit union in the community ... which one might negotiate with in order to consider "exchanging" currencies.

I would envision the process would be to educate the community on the use of cryptocurrencies (eg introduce them to STEEM as a medium of exchange - having Steemians visit the community and buy local products). Possibly this could be negotiated with a local business development organization (if one exists).

Look at @jerrybanfield here: https://steemnow.com/@jerrybanfield

His steem power and delegation 108,515.761 STEEM + 452,666.061 STEEM Delegation = 561,181.822. His upvote is worth $135.77. Just 10 posts/upvotes would exceed $1000 (the population of Shakespeare * $1.00). So if someone was responsible for posting once daily with a similar Steem power as Jerry, each person could receive $1 each month (The municipality would receive $2000). If the municipality continues to reinvest the STEEM then over time each inhabitant could receive more and more monthly.

It may be easier to leverage Stratford for a pilot

The reason that I had suggest the smaller community was that it might be easier to provide outreach to 1000 people instead of 31000.

If you will be attempting to address the needs of people accessing the Community Food Center, it probably makes sense to have the distributions occurs weekly instead of monthly.

Perhaps it would occur like this. Initially the "village" are the people using the Food Center facilities. As people enter the facilities they can be assisted in joining the membership of the steemit community. At the same time their ID's would be entered into the community database.

Meanwhile some specific retailers (including Compudoc) could be approached to accept Steem Dollars against purchases. My suggestion would be to target a few local businesses (convenience store, clothing store, restaurant ... you get the idea) which would be promoted as the place that people could go to to spend their SBD.

Alternatively the recipients could be encouraged and trained on creating their own posts.

As far as funding the account, instead of looking for grants, it might be interesting to get the funding sources to buy steem power and delegate it to the community. If money is granted to an organization the money will absolutely go to zero. If the money is loaned to an organization it might go to zero. If money is converted to STEEM power and delegated ... it might go to zero (anything can happen). It might also descend to $1.00 or remain at whatever the current price is (anything can happen). It might even rise 10 times to its current price (anything can happen) meaning when the delegation period is passed (the project is self sustaining), the "lender" might be able to spawn 10 new projects.

As this project matures, I am sure that additional organizations in the area (special needs, assisted living etc) could be added to the "village". Three years ago I used this site https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Stratford-ON-Canada to calculate cost of living projections for a project I pitched to the Canadian government for request for proposals they had for Ukraine. (I failed to get that proposal accepted ... possibly because I couldn't determine an ethical way to spend all the money that they had allocated for the project).

There are some tax implications in the proposal. Cashing out SBD would be considered capital gains (taxed at roughly 8 percent) but it might be interesting to have a discussion with the Ministry about this project.

These are just a few talking points that you might consider

I get your point about the smaller community.

No, I just mentioned Shakespeare because it fit a few criteria that I considered (proximity to larger centers for example). I assume there would be a fair number of university students in Guelph, Kitchener and London who could be tricked to coming to an event. However a community could be geographic (my 93 year old father suggested segmenting Stratford into neighbourhoods and approach it that way) or by some other commonality. A food bank might be a good way to go. Even if a you are able to get a single restaurant willing to take SBD could be way to spark a community. Even if a person only gets a single coffee the first month, it might be of interest.

From my own experience, I was one of those who only received 0.001 STEEM POWER for my posts until I cheated and bought steem and powered up. After giving a fair amount away for Christmas gifts I had off with a base amount of roughly 1500 Steem power and have added roughly 50 per month since November.

I was wondering if you were able to attend the meetup and if you mentioned a potential STEEM UBI?

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