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RE: My Take on the New "EIP" Hardfork 21 Announcement
The witnesses and devs are so sure of themselves it’s disgusting. No community outreach. No public facing debates or forums on a neutral platform. No evidence as to why things will go the way they want. They’re just asking us to trust that we’ll make more in the process. They swear it. The whales aren’t the ones who primarily stand to gain. It’s creators! Trust us.
I’m sick and tired of this crap. They keep changing the economy with these huge sweeping changes that have been decided in the dark.
It’s so irresponsible, the Top 20 witnesses should be voted out if this gets implemented.
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There's been public discussions for years, there also was an unofficial poll. Steemit Inc also asked for community output on their latest posts and I think this is what drove them towards these updates. But I agree, there's a lot to improve on this area, they just need to be aware of it.
What I want is a clear and centralized process that is public on a forum like reddit.com/r/steem where the discussions are scheduled and open for all. I had to bounce around to five different accounts and scan all of their comments. You know what I found though? Nothing. No data. An informal poll is unscientific. I saw references to various economic theories, but no reason why any of them were particularly useful in isolation, let alone together. The process is fucking garbage. Even Tim Cliff had to admit that they had zero evidence any of this would work. I didn't see any professional economists consulted and the SteemitBlog's HF21 post lacks a tremendous amount of detail. It's all a bunch of assumptions. It's infuriating and leaves me with no confidence that the Top 20 actually know what they're doing, let alone Steemit.
Can't disagree with anything you say, the misuse of resources available is enormous but I hope everyone involved learns and is ready to improve.
I guess what we would need for this kind of discussion is a forum.
You echo my sentiments 100%. But sadly, there's nothing we can do except just watch everything unfold.
Is there really nothing? Can’t we find some way of - at least in the long term - removing these dolts and installing witnesses that were worthy?
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Nope... The witnesses are put there by the most powerful players on Steemit. That's the rules of the platform and I guess we have no choice but to accept it or move on.
A top 10 witness who is also one of the largest bid-bot owners is trolling this post and telling someone expressing legitimate concerns to leave for a competing blogging site if they don't like it.
This is a microcosm of the larger issues that started with Steem Inc's ninja mining. Only real assholes would abuse this system to max out rewards for themselves, and now they are the ones with the largest stakes and in charge of making decisions for the whole platform that solidify their grasp on power and enrich themselves. It's already limited hangout with self-dealing developers and circle-jerking insiders, where most of the communication about the fate of the network is conducted in secret, without user input and outside the reach of public scrutiny, and the hardfork will exacerbate these problems even more.
I think we might need something akin to a coordinated voting block and way of obtaining power on the network, because as it stands I think they need to go. I completely agree with how they go about discussing the changes. They're on private discord servers and spread out across half a dozen accounts or more and done at odd times. How can anyone consider this considerate or even really public. When I say public, I mean more like a forum, where these discussions happen in a neutral way on a neutral platform like Reddit so we can have outside voices and not fear downvotes affecting anything.
No offense intended but...have you been living under a rock? This has been discussed openly for 2 years (more so in the last couple of months).
I've read inklings here or there, but nothing that borders on a public forum on a neutral platform. I couldn't find any formal polls. Seems like a lot of this took place in discords and the comments sections of disperate accounts. No offense, but if you call that public facing or an outreach, you must be a simpleton.
Well,all those post from "disperate" accounts were very visible and on the blockchain. How much more public can they get? I don't understand what you mean by "neutral platform" (what can be more neutral than the blockchain?). Please remember that steem is not a democracy so calling for polls is naive. Here stake is king, both for determining what gets rewarded and when voting for witnesses that approve changes to the protocol. It is what it is wether we like it or not. I am just being realistic if you view that as being a simpleton then have a good day sir.
The process needs to be centralized on a place like reddit.com/r/steem and discussions need to be scheduled and formalized. This informal process is absolutely garbage. I'm busy creating content and it's hard bouncing around to different accounts and scanning all of the comments and knowing which ones are more important than others. No economists were consulted as far as I can tell. No data was presented. Informal polls are not scientific. I don't care if it isn't a pure democracy, what I want is competence.
I was going to respond in a snarky manner to your proposal about using reddit to discuss matters that pertain only to steem stakeholders but that would not be productive. I have no objections regarding the points you make about the abscence of a formal structure to discuss changes that affect all steem users.
Tokenbb forums could be used to make the proposals and highlight them on different frontends so that all steem users can have easy access to the discussion.
Ha! Snark is always delicious. :)