@coininstant ... I see many people against bid bots. The question arises, why we have bidbots available? Why these whales have invested so heavily in steem? I believe they are here to make money if this purpose is not served they will leave this platform i.e. to take out the investment which is not beneficial for steem obviously.
Please help me by explaining the purpose of bidbots and how you see this as abuse when bidbots exist legally on steemit?
The reason is it is so easy to transact directly with the blockchain, and there is nothing to stop the bots. We can use many programs, i.e. steempy which I was working with today, they are set up with python and so it makes programming easier! It is not all that bad, just shifts the money around. If I were you I would not worry about them, and just concentrate on creating more good content! Because u used the bot it helped trend your post so I got to read your post and learn, so there is benefit. If no bot, none of these interactions may have occurred. Heres the rule, if you work hard on your post generally it will be accepted by most of the community if you use bidbits. No worries, Im not really going after anyone, I realized there is a pro and a con to everything. The truth is I am totally into bots, emersed, I work on programming bots 12 hours every day minimum! That is why I went bot crazy, I became over saturated!
See heres an example how easy it is to get steem info right from my terminal.
So as you can see from here I can now vote, post, downvote, automate with a robot programmed all in my terminal! All the bidbot does is take the memo and vote for a post in the memo after a payment. A bidbot is boiled down to a few lines of code in reality these days and anybody an operate one!
Update, Use beempy instead of steempy! Beempy is all working!!
Here is the starting point: Follow holger80's directions and compare with the lines of code from my installation example if your on a mac. The lines of code I provided are exactly all the steps to install on a mac. Following exactly will work!
Here is how I install beem on my mac, not sure if your using Mac or PC?
Follow this tutorial post to get going.
From your terminal bash command line shell prompt type in these commands one line at a time!
Below is a screenshot of the terminal. Brew is homebrew, you will need that too for installing this!
brew cask install anaconda
nano ~/.zshrc
Nano (the line of ode above) is a text editor launching command, copy this line below into your .zshrc file one you get into the file with the nano line above. Next use the source line below to activate the changes to you profile:
Here is how it looks in the terminal below once installed:
2019-06-07 20:58:18 β nickademous in ~
Β± |master β1 β2 S:387 U:367 ?:474 β| β python
Python 3.7.3 (default, Mar 27 2019, 16:54:48)
[Clang 4.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_401/final)] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
One of very first things that I would suggest to reduce impact of bidbots is to introduce maximum value of upvote.
Basically it's very sick and unfair system when huge player can give 10 powerful votes a day. With growth of STEEM POWER we shouldn't have only stronger votes. We should mostly have "more" upvotes available (with some maximum power).
That would force people to distribute their curation efforts and would definetly be a huge hit for bidbots.
Dear @coininstant
cool comment.
You seem to be quite obsessed with bots :)
cheers
Piotr
Yeah I am obsessed!
@coininstant ... I see many people against bid bots. The question arises, why we have bidbots available? Why these whales have invested so heavily in steem? I believe they are here to make money if this purpose is not served they will leave this platform i.e. to take out the investment which is not beneficial for steem obviously.
Please help me by explaining the purpose of bidbots and how you see this as abuse when bidbots exist legally on steemit?
The reason is it is so easy to transact directly with the blockchain, and there is nothing to stop the bots. We can use many programs, i.e. steempy which I was working with today, they are set up with python and so it makes programming easier! It is not all that bad, just shifts the money around. If I were you I would not worry about them, and just concentrate on creating more good content! Because u used the bot it helped trend your post so I got to read your post and learn, so there is benefit. If no bot, none of these interactions may have occurred. Heres the rule, if you work hard on your post generally it will be accepted by most of the community if you use bidbits. No worries, Im not really going after anyone, I realized there is a pro and a con to everything. The truth is I am totally into bots, emersed, I work on programming bots 12 hours every day minimum! That is why I went bot crazy, I became over saturated!
See heres an example how easy it is to get steem info right from my terminal.
So as you can see from here I can now vote, post, downvote, automate with a robot programmed all in my terminal! All the bidbot does is take the memo and vote for a post in the memo after a payment. A bidbot is boiled down to a few lines of code in reality these days and anybody an operate one!
Update, Use beempy instead of steempy! Beempy is all working!!
Thanks for the info, this info is flying over my head and I hope I will be able to catch up after working on it ;)
Would you mind sharing the link for beempy and steempy :)
Here is the starting point: Follow holger80's directions and compare with the lines of code from my installation example if your on a mac. The lines of code I provided are exactly all the steps to install on a mac. Following exactly will work!
https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@holger80/update-for-beem-several-improvements
Here is how I install beem on my mac, not sure if your using Mac or PC?
Follow this tutorial post to get going.
From your terminal bash command line shell prompt type in these commands one line at a time!
Below is a screenshot of the terminal. Brew is homebrew, you will need that too for installing this!
brew cask install anaconda
nano ~/.zshrc
Nano (the line of ode above) is a text editor launching command, copy this line below into your .zshrc file one you get into the file with the nano line above. Next use the source line below to activate the changes to you profile:
export PATH="/usr/local/anaconda3/bin:$PATH"
source ~/.zshrc
conda --version
conda 4.6.11
brew install openssl
export CFLAGS="-I$(brew --prefix openssl)/include $CFLAGS"
export LDFLAGS="-L$(brew --prefix openssl)/lib $LDFLAGS"
pip install beem
Here is how it looks in the terminal below once installed:
2019-06-07 20:58:18 β nickademous in ~
Β± |master β1 β2 S:387 U:367 ?:474 β| β python
Python 3.7.3 (default, Mar 27 2019, 16:54:48)
[Clang 4.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_401/final)] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
screenshots:
Resoures:
https://steemit.com/steem/@holger80/how-to-reply-to-a-post-using-beem
https://github.com/holgern/beem
https://busy.org/@holger80/how-to-install-and-use-beempy-using-anaconda
https://beem.readthedocs.io/en/latest/configuration.html
example using beempy to upvote my friends post yesterday with beempy once set up
From Example:
beempy upvote --account <account_name> https://steemit.com/funny/@mynameisbrian/the-content-stand-a-comic
https://beem.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installation.html
beempy upvote --account coininstant https://steemit.com/funny/@theguruasia/how-stop-me-tga-comic 100.0
Β± |master U:4 ?:1 β| β beempy upvote --account coininstant https://steemit.com/funny/@theguruasia/how-stop-me-tga-comic 100.0
Wallet Unlocked!
{
"expiration": "2019-06-14T06:10:49",
"ref_block_num": 33458,
"ref_block_prefix": 136626756,
"operations": [
[
"vote",
{
"voter": "coininstant",
"author": "theguruasia",
"permlink": "how-stop-me-tga-comic",
"weight": 10000
}
]
],
"extensions": [],
"signatures": [
"1f7be6d19a6829bf0717c66c65e796ccf1f76dfae65dcdf3ef8fdd99c6deb133d85e63147b213a820e7675bb30c9a0aa3fa677fef297f0749def545d0a521e7440"
]
}
Dear @coininstant
One of very first things that I would suggest to reduce impact of bidbots is to introduce maximum value of upvote.
Basically it's very sick and unfair system when huge player can give 10 powerful votes a day. With growth of STEEM POWER we shouldn't have only stronger votes. We should mostly have "more" upvotes available (with some maximum power).
That would force people to distribute their curation efforts and would definetly be a huge hit for bidbots.
Yours
Piotr