The mainstream interpretation of the Bible, and the esoterically True interpretation of the Bible.
A response post to @creatr's recent post: The Shocking Truth About the Bible.
Let me first quote something by Neville Goddard: Excerpted from his lecture "Consciousness is the only reality"
- "Let me state now that the Bible has no reference at all to any persons who ever existed or to any event that ever occurred upon earth."
- "The ancient story tellers were not writing history but an allegorical picture lesson of certain basic principles which they clothed in the garb of history, and they adapted these stories to the limited capacity of a most uncritical and credulous people."
- "Throughout the centuries we have mistakenly taken personifications for persons, allegory for history, the vehicle that conveyed the instruction for the instruction, and the gross first sense for the ultimate sense intended"....
Now, I wish to offer a different interpretation of some of the Bible quotes that you shared with us on your post. So here I go:
"This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand."
- The author is speaking about himself. About the fact that he doesn't just outright writes the Secret of the Bible with words that anyone would understand.
"There are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father."
"After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him."
- John 6:64-66
- BELIEF is required to accomplish anything and everything in Life. Belief comes in many forms: Mental Attitude, Actions, Words.
- Jesus represents the state where we have already achieved our desires. The Father represents our Mind. Unless the Mind accepts the state of Desire already Achieved, it cannot achieve it.
- Many disciples turning back represents the fact that people don't put themselves in the state where their desire is already achieved. Meaning that they don't achieve it, meaning that the're no longer walking with Jesus.
"They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart."
- Ephesians 4:18
- Imagination is God and God creates everything out of Itself. When a man has a "hardness of heart", he doesn't pay attention to his own Imagination, and so he is "alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them".
"For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened."
- Romans 1:21
- Altough they knew Imagination, they did not know it is God, nor honor It(which is to Use it), nor give thanks to It. So their God was futile to them, and they became unhappy.
"And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him."
- Hebrews 11:6
- Until you Know that your Imagination is God you will not Use It righteously. And until you do that, you will not please God and you won't be rewarded by Him.
Just another opinion
I'm still young in the study of Neville Goddards teaching, so I may not know how to correctly interpret every quote of the Bible, but I wanted to share some interpretations that I do believe to be correct.
I do not claim them to be correct, but I do believe them to be correct.
It's just another's random guy on the internet perspective.
Thanks
Thank you for taking your time to read it and I do appreciate any kind of feedback. So let's start a conversation. Comment with some of your own interpretation regarding the given Bible quotes.
I do subscribe to the idea of God being our bird's view vision; ability to plan and make out the future; visually imagine. We can see the outcome of our actions, but still we often disregard our imagination's advice. Our overview is our greatest asset. It's a reason why most top-gods in various mythologies are eagles.
Yes! I can see. I knew about the idea of a terrestrial animal such as the Snake to convey the idea of Materiality, of phisicality,of being grounded, and that of birds to represent the Spirit, the Higher Ideals, Goals, and anything of a Divine nature in man.
Thanks for the insights! I appreciate them.
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I've listened to a few audiobooks of Neville Goddard. He taps into an interesting idea.
He indeed does. And it seems to me that the more you listen to him, the more he makes sense. And the more you reap the benefits of his teachings.
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This is just another + and - view of reality and it is just left and right rein for sheep. For me is sad that spirituality is twisted by believe systems.
I can see where you're coming from, but I'd like to object!
There is no + and -, there is no left and right. There is just that which you imagine yourself to experience. That which you imagine yourself that you are experiencing.
Thanks for the comment!
It is not true... slaves on the ships from africa couldn't imagine what they will be...
You can be something else than what you can imagine -> you can be something else than God ;)
If you understand the esoteric concept of God, you understand that there is nothing else beside God, also called The All.
I understand but esoteric concepts are nothing else than new religion. And if someone saying Everything is God so that mean nothing more than different word for Everything... and Everything has no personality, has no feeling, has no intelligence, has no perception and so on... If some esoteric man say God is blah blah blah - it is just wishful thinking
I beg to differ. If Everything had no personality, no feelings, no intelligence and no perception, then you wouldn't have them as well.
You are, as I am, a fractal impersonation of that "Everything".
You seem to have a real rigid belief system yourself. Not judging, just a first impression.
"I beg to differ. If Everything had no personality, no feelings, no intelligence and no perception, then you wouldn't have them as well."
Really?????? In this sentence is no logic. Hey that what I am talking about, blindness and wishful thinking....
I know sounds logically but that is not true! If it is true than you can proof it on any example of everything.
But I now know believers needs examples from real world. :)
What personality then have Siamese twins?
https://www.google.cz/search?q=siamese+twin&client=opera&hs=IA1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwimz5CJ4p_VAhUW02MKHRjoBMwQ_AUICigB&biw=1855&bih=985
If you think like: Siamese twins is everything. Than one twin have one personality and other have second personality. But together have no personality... Got it!
Please start questioning these esoteric logic mind traps.
I can't see much logic in you're perspective as well. Just blind belief and wishful thinking in regards to scientism.
I know that that your perspective may sound logical to you, but it isn't True.
I haven't considered the subject you're offering yet, but I'll give it a go.
Siamese twins is just a simple malformation in nature. It's something natural, happens all the time.
The thing is that since they both have their own operating centers (heads) they can both form their own personality.
That is normal. But it also happens that one person has two different, distinct personalities. That's also normal. You can at all time act as whoever you want to act. There's no restriction to that. One individual might create two, or even more personalities for the different things they do in life. And they always switch between those personalities. We ALL do this to different extents. But there are these multi-personality disorder individuals who create such different personalities, that it's like they become someone else when they embody each of the personalities.
In you Mind is Everything. Your Imagination is capable of Everything. You can choose to act as any other personality withing this world. That has died, that is alive, or even that doesn't exist yet. But that posibility is still within the range of your Imagination.
Please start questioning these "scientismical" logic mind traps.
Hello, @cipriang,
Thanks for reading and responding to my post. I appreciate your interaction, but disagree with your viewpoint. There is considerable historical and archeological evidence for the existence of Jesus and of many of his followers.
If Jesus was a real person, and if John's book in the bible provides us with an actual representation of things that Jesus said, then it might be important for you to consider and respond to Jesus words.
Jesus is not a state of mind, he is the creator-God of the universe and is due our belief and worship.
Thank you again for your interaction.
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I'm happy we can interact in an environment where there aren't logs to be burned on. lol
I'm kidding. But I do appreciate this kind of interaction as well. It's good to be able to express our different points of view, and then just follow our own path regardless of what others choose to Believe.
Just as I'm hearing from you that there is considerable historical and archaeological evidence for the physical existence of Jesus, I have also heard that there is little to no considerable historical and archaeological evidence for His physical existence.
We do agree that Jesus is the Creator-God of the universe. But the only kind of worship he "demands" of us is to be Aware of His existence Within Us. We please Him only in knowing that I and Him is One. That there is no separation.
Thank you too @creatr! Looking forward to more awesome conversations with you. :)
I also have read this ... and I don
t wanna sound like a smart ass ... but if either of those debating God have read Pascals Pesnsees :http://www.ntslibrary.com/PDF%20Books/Blaise%20Pascal%20Pensees.pdf
or Platons "The Cave" witch even has a short animation on
Youtube
these are things easy to understand ... then you could have a real debate ... conversation there are many more I could of mentioned but these i found to be my starting point of contemplation ...
I haven't read Pascal Pesnsees so I can't speak about that, but I have looked into Plato's allegory of the cave before.
I totally agree with the allegory. But it can use against any kind of argument brought up by anyone.
So on and so forth.
Anyway, thanks for getting involved in the conversation!
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