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RE: The Bill of Rights (including The 2nd Amendment) was written to 'Protect The People' from their own government, not from each other. Which explains WHY 'career politicians' WANT your gun.
So you're saying greed won over cooperation?
Or was it that a hierarchical power structure won over a decentralized power structure?
And there's another slight problem, there exists some people that don't want to think for themselves, heck they wouldn't even want a democracy.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works
there are many examples of it throughout history, dont even try with the "human nature" arguments.
What im saying is that for a society to choose its future it must not be democratic only on social issues, but have democracy in full control of the economy as well (as opposed to private ownership, which follows the trends of markets and not the will of the people).
lol that's the "one book" I've read XD
I'm not saying your wrong. But I doubt it sounds idealistic, (whatever the word is to designate it isn't very practical/not likely to happen)
you followed a semi-positive statement with a but and then added another semi-positive statement.
I think im missing the meaning here
I meant that I doubt that we'd ever get to a point where we will have a socialist/communist/anarchist society.
This is what you call communism... Isn't it?
yes, the basis of communism tends to be democracy
we have been at that point before, in fact if we dont turn into that form of economy we will be destroyed
I usually like to thing of the ideal future I want. To get to that point we'd need to have some way to organize everyone in the whole world so that they follow certain moral, legal and cultural codes.
We need some form of organization. And we need some form of long term planning and fast reactive planning.
We'd need a way to ensure that capital belonging to humanity can't be captured by any one group, we'd need another way to ensure that land resources won't be exploited simply because "it belongs to everyone"
And all that is already dependent on somehow changing the very beliefs that's ingrained into everyone from their birth to death.
The fact that so many go to jobs and have to tolerate being shit on by their employees just cause they're the ones paying their salaries. If it wasn't something deeply ingrained in most of society would anyone ever allow it? At the moment people don't seem very willing to change the way things work. They're tired.
"The fact that so many go to jobs and have to tolerate being shit on by their employees just cause they're the ones paying their salaries."
wait, are you suggesting the ruling class is the one being attacked and needs protecting?
No. I'm saying that people (the working class mostly) Don't care to change cause they've been conditioned their whole life to accept the way things are and the way they operate.
It's like owning slaves but cutting down on the costs of keeping guards through telling the slaves they're free, and convincing them they were the ones to choose how they currently live their lives.