Shiny Badges Don't Grant Special Rights

in #liberty6 years ago

Well. I'm feeling good enough to get back on teh interwebz, and of course I immediately find myself faced with the usual idiocy of authoritarians and the boot-lickers who apologize for them. Ugh. Here's a screenshot of one such post:

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Of course, this kind of egregious advocacy for tyranny cannot go un-challenged, but so many out there just parrot the same thoughtless talking points in response to anything that shakes their worldview. I used to worship the government and the police too, so I doubtless parroted the same vacuous nothingness myself until I seriously examined my beliefs. Thus, I try to keep somewhat civil, because calling a copsucker by that label isn't going to make any progress toward liberty. Reminding people that the slave patrol was enforcing the laws being broken by the illegal Underground Railroad in the antebellum era makes people uncomfortable. Mentioning the Nazi SS just results in claims that Godwin's Law somehow negates the argument presented. Instead, let's examine some common beliefs with a lens of liberty and an attempt at civil discourse.

  • Police need to be respected because they have authority granted by law!

What is the source of this alleged authority? Granted by whom? Appeal to legality is a non-argument. The first principle of a free society is that no one has special privileges or authority over others. Burden of proof is yours to show otherwise.

  • Sure, there are some bad apples, but cops who commit crimes get punished! Justice prevails!

The whole proverb says, "A few bad apples spoil the bunch." Police do not police themselves. By and large, police are not punished for crimes they commit, even in the most blatant cases of brutality or egregious error. The worst usual result is a stint of desk duty followed by perhaps getting shuffled to a new department. If the victims do actually get a judgement in their favor by some miracle, the taxpayer foots the bill. That isn't justice.

  • You shouldn't get in the way of cops, they're just doing their jobs. They have special training and they're here to protect us! Besides, just obey the law and you'll be fine.

The job of a cop is to enforce arbitrary government policy. It's what they're trained to do first and foremost. Any real criminal investigation is tangential to their primary job. The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, and face it, owning the wrong bit of plant or selling a "prohibited" drug is not fundamentally a crime by any rational measure. I know this idea is strange to most, but give it some serious thought, please. (And no, I do not partake in drugs, so don't bother with that pathetic non-responsive accusation)

  • If you don't like the cops, how do you expect to keep us safe?

...Every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
― Frédéric Bastiat, "The Law"

But even beyond that, we have real-world examples of practical alternatives. Private security is a thing. Detroit Threat Management offers a model for privately-funded honest and peaceful neighborhood security today. It's not a magical fantasy. It exists already, and people already use it because it works. On the other hand, do you think that the waste and abuse inherent in any monopoly disappears when you wave a flag over it?

  • Cops just want to go home to their families, and they have a dangerous job!

It's pretty damned dangerous to be confronted by a cop, too, and their job wouldn't be nearly so dangerous if they respected the rights of others instead of using legality to justify trespass against innocent people. A fundamental principle of law is that of there is no victim, there is no crime. If there is no crime, any punitive action is itself criminal. Remember, shiny badges don't grant special rights.

I could perhaps somewhat respect an Andy Griffith who tries to actually serve the people and keep the peace, but too many cops are more like Barney Fife with less comic relief. CSI and the rest of the alphabet soup cop procedural dramas distort our perception of police. Unfortunately, most won't understand this until they're on the wrong end of a cop out to fill his (unofficial and much-denied) ticket quota, find their doors bashed in by a SWAT team who got the wrong address for a drug bust, or otherwise see the true nature of police when it's too late.


What other thoughtless responses have you seen when you dare to challenge the political status quo or question the legitimacy of government goons? Comment below! Do you think I'm missing the point and there is a legitimate justification for government monopoly police enforcing the edicts of the legislature? Let's get a serious discussion rolling in the comments!

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I really enjoyed this. You've put my previous thoughts into well formulated words!

I don't know how much i can add to this- but i put another thought out there.
Here we have a bumper sticker that people put on their cars that goes:
"If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them"
And then like a lot of these things (thoughts and prayers with them) they put a ribbon around it. More recently i've seen it only in white and red.
I believe this is because of someone who put out a legit response in bumper sticker form that turned the ribbon to a question mark and replaced the words with "question war".

I'm not stating that i'm anti military. i am however pro-thought.

Haha.... Thoughts?

I would say that I am anti-military, because a standing army is, like the police, funded by extorting the people it allegedly protects, and in addition, its very existence means the political class can't help but use it for foreign adventurism. Have you read Marine Corps General Smedley Butler's book, War is a Racket?

As for the specific bumper sticker slogan, why should people "stand behind the troops"? Does this apply to all people around the world in all governments, or is the US military especially noble for some reason? What virtue is there in enforcing the foreign policy of Washington, DC?

I have not read it, i will have a peak on the libraries website!
I have only seen the sticker here in canada. I think it popped up right around the same time as ptsd became a recognized thing (here).
I never supported canada going to the ukraine. Or kosavo. (Sp?) Or, or, or...
In addition, our military system us uktra flawed, i don't know from first hand how it is in other countries but for canada and sweden: our military folk in canada are often guilty of abuse toward their loved ones. I don't stand behind that either.

AAANDthank you for not being ignorant toward your governments actions and policies pertaining to extortion!

It's an old book, so you can find it online. It isn't very long either.

I'm so useless with technology.. Where do you acquire your books online if i may ask?

Just try a google search with his name and the title.

This is such a delicate topic. I, too, used to share memes like the one posted above. I have friends who work in law enforcement, but, like you have gone through some real analysis of the type of world I want to live in and what systems I am supporting consciously or not.

I feel there are officers who do want to do the right thing. I was pulled over by a sheriff a few months back while driving a rental car. I usually drive an old diesel truck and with the little quiet car, I was looking 20+ miles over the limit before I realized and slowed down, but not before passing him. Anyway, he let me off with a warning and was not at all aggressive or condescending. He was friendly, approachable and understanding. I wasn't mad at him as I knew he was doing his job (even though I hate the system.)

Now, on the other hand, here's where I have a major beef with the local sheriff's Dept. We have some shady neighbors, known drug dealers & repeat offenders. We had to call the sheriff once and the deputy informed us they were understaffed and that 2 officers were covering such a wide area, that oftentimes in case of an emergency, it would take at least 45 minutes for them to respond!

So, boating season is in effect and Idaho has all these check stations for "Invasive aquatic species". There's one just down the road from my home and who's hiding there? A deputy waiting for someone to drive by it!(Did I mention they moved it's location from where it was last year so it's harder to see and more likely to be missed?). And it wasn't just one day. The car was there daily for a couple weeks! How much money in BS tickets was the county or state making to warrant that kind of waste of resources? I'd much rather my tax $ go to patrolling around known sex offenders or felons of violent crimes over babysitting a check station! So frustrating...

Arresting violent criminals is dangerous and rarely lucrative.
Much safer and profitable to go after the peaceful, middle class 'law-breaker'. Besides, if they locked up all the rapists and murderers they wouldn't have any boogeymen left to scare taxes out of us.

Exactly, the authority is the collective decision of giving a specific right to a person and is as much as an illusion. But, problem happens when this illusion get real and especially beyond the limit. At that time there is no more such thing called authority, then it should be trialed on humanity basis. There is a very good movie related to it "The Stanford prison experiment"

Illusions don't become real, but people take real actions based on the mythology they believe. There is no collective, no social contract, and no rightful authority over others. People believe in these, though, and act accordingly. That is why our battle is in the realm of ideas.

Check out @badquakerdotcom's posting of Davi Barker's pamphlet Authoritarian Sociopathy. Part 1, part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5 and part 6. It covers the Milgram experiment, the Stanford Prison Experiment, and much more.

Awesome, i like what you said

Illusions dont become real but people start to take real actions on them..
That is why our battles are in the realm of ideas

I think you have summed it up pretty nicely. The whole world right now is actually in the conflict of ideas and nothing else. Ideas too of those whom we admired and may or may not have ever reflected any positivism on our real lives.
I would surely check those blogs and going to follow

This is a tough topic but there is no need for the death penalty.

Why?

Because we are all going to suffer from the death penalty from: heart disease, cancer, stroke, dementia etc.

If the state kills people there is always a chance that there will be mistake.

Just lock them up and let time do the job for you.

Good post BTW.

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