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RE: Libertarian Party Factionalism

And "making new Libertarians", if you're serious about winning for liberty, should NOT be a concern, by the way. If you're serious, you'll just do what YOU need to do and, through your actions, will attract supporters who are serious about DOING something too...not just cheap-talking it. Using the excuse that liberty isn't winning because there aren't enough "Libertarians" is profoundly flawed and naive. I'm telling you. Take it from someone WITH experience AND who nearly won MY 3rd of 3 US House races. I DO know what I'm talking about...because I DID it!

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Actually I don't think it particularly productive to tell others how to Liberty. You do you boo.

But then again, since you have ZERO experience actually DOING something, with YOUR name on the line, you don't know what you're saying. Just because you're surrounded by lip service doesn't mean you know anything about ideology in action.

You can think what you do is brilliant...like an artist might. But, like the art critic, watching someone like you spinning your wheels, from my EXTENSIVE experience, is my freedom too.

You are very humble too.

Actually I won a lawsuit against the state of Colorado for violating freedom of political speech. You don't know me.

You're a Party aparatchik. It tells me plenty. Not a SINGLE victory in 47 years of existence but, because of you on the scene now, it's "different" this time...right?

Or am I right that you're just there to be a small fish in a micro-pond? If I'm wrong, I'm giving you the pleasure of proving me so. If I'm right, what have I lost in assessing you EXACTLY as you are?

And I'm sorry you confuse experience that justifies speaking confidently with a lack of humility. Do you make it a habit of focusing more on the delivery than the substance of the message, while we're on it?

Are you there to virtue-signal to other "Libertarians" how "important" your title is, or are you there to WIN ELECTIONS? It's a simple question. Since you're talking about your love of the Party, my philosophical challenge has merit.

Oh...and the founders didn't want Parties either...are you wiser today than they were back then? A simple yes or no will suffice. After everything I've witnessed from the Libertarian Party after 2004, it's no wonder they were correct even on that point.

But you go 'head and prove us all wrong...with such "libertarian" luminaries as Bob Barr, Bill Weld and Gary Johnson to your Party's credit...I must be "crazy" to criticize. I'm a "hater", right?

Boorish because I'm addressing you as part of the LP? Oh well. Don't be a part of the LP and you won't suffer the deserved condemnation, especially considering the last 13 laughable years. I don't need to know you personally if you're in a LP capacity. That's been my point all along, and precisely why I'm addressing you in your role as a LP apparatchik.

No you are just an unpleasant boorish person to someone you don't even know.

And there's nothing funnier to me, personally, than getting lessons from those who only know theory about how to talk to others, versus what I know, from experience, that almost won me an election, on a shoestring budget and with almost no help.

Until you start winning elections, we can talk to you Party hacks however we please. It's not like you're succeeding in anything relevant. And gossip about Ron Paul isn't anything. In the bigger picture, you're all still a big social club of do-nothings who have NO formidable plans for victory. Prove me wrong. What's the worst that'll happen? That I was wrong? That would be GREAT! But I bet I'm not...

Your Party is a failure. If that's the association you wish to convey, then you're a fair target of my condemnation. The LP is a social club of losers and well-intentioned but naive newbies.

Show me on the doll where the LP touched you.

We touch with our fingers, primarily. Speaking of those, I have more libertarian integrity in my pinky finger than most of the leadership in the LP.

Your turn.

Is it true that the LP turned away Ron Paul as a guest speaker for the next convention?

No it's not.

You must not have read the details about what your people at the LP said about Ron Paul. Did you not even look at the link I provided? I looked at yours...and it wasn't refuting it all, the way I'm thinking you hope it would.

Yes I did. I am on the Libertarian National Committee. I am more well acquainted with the situation than you and most certainly more than Liberty Hangout.

If you are on Facebeast there is a pretty long livestream I did with Daniel Hayes (the Chair of the Convention Committee and a very good friend) on this topic.

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