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RE: Tweedism: Why Democracy And Money Don't Mix

in #informationwars6 years ago (edited)

quick question, are you an american? do you mean Republic and maybe rephrase to a republic/democracy due to the electoral college? some info might be missing, thought i might add that to the mix here ... not in argument but for clarity. this is an ongoing debate for awhile and since i was a political science major, this is of interest. i am very up on politics and whats going on in the world so at least imo its important to put clear info out ... hopefully, you agree. :)

PS. sounds like Lessing is "agreeing" the deep state are the ones deciding on what Americans vote on ... that i would agree with. LOL

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Nope not American: born in South America, living in The Netherlands :-) Thanks for adding that info, @eaglespirit. But I must be honest and say that I don't really see how that changes anything Larry has to say in the video about democracy. America isn't the only country where politics is ruled by economics; this is a world wide phenomenon. It would be like having something to say about the democracy in The Netherlands and forgetting to mention that we're actually still a Kingdom...

Or did you mean something completely different? If I'm missing something, please don't hesitate to teach me and others who might be reading this!

And yes, I do agree that putting out clear info is important, something the mainstream media seems to have forgotten ;-)

The Title as well as the Video can be misleading. The USA is a country based on a Republic ultimately not a Democracy. I added the argument as some do, so I am stating it is important since facts are important. We see too much of what people say and do as "fake news." That is because many of the social media, news are bought off including professors from Harvard.
There are many Americans that are very tired of false information being spread about this country. I added the term Shadow Government because that would be that small percentage that is thrown around and yes they do "own" most of the world and make decisions for all of us. I say all because most of us are from the families of those select few. I also add that economics is not really what is going on here, it is about control and that is in many forms, yet only a small portion of it as well as politics. Do you know who that small percentage is? Do you know who I am speaking of when I mention Shadow Gvt? Democracy and Kingdom are two separate things and how things are ruled. Yes mainstream is totally out there and on their way out. Doing research is very important.

This is why the difference of Republic and Democracy is an important difference to Americans: http://www.thisnation.com/question/011.html

The YT you posted was from 2 years ago, Americans voted to get rid of that .02 by what we call "cleaning the swamp," maybe you have heard about it? Things are changing in our country and it's about time. The Shadow gvt is falling ... maybe more read about that?

There is a lot more going on since 2015, and this guy after listening to him is a sellout.

I'm still in the dark here @eaglespirit, to what difference between Republic and Democracy you're referring to. For all intents and purposes the Republic is a representative democracy in which a group of "wise men" is elected who select or nominate between them the candidate(s) for the presidency, like almost all democracies in the world. All of them I know of also are accompanied by a constitution in which the minorities are protected against the "Dictatorship by the Majority". It's that way in The Netherlands, in Britain, in Germany and in the U.S.

Maybe I would understand better if you explain to me why you think Lessig is a shill. Like I said to @passion-ground, I disagree with Lessig on the "solutions" he offers, but his explanation of the reality of the plutocracy is crystal clear and applicable, in varying degrees, to all democracies I know of.

well, here's the thing maybe its a difference of you not being an American? I have no idea why it isn't clicking, but when it doesn't it just doesn't. I explained it with research and spent time trying to explain. i never used the word Shrill. it's better we just state we agree to disagree, although it does appear we do agree with Lessig's "solutions." so if at all that in of itself is the bottom line and most important out of the presentation.

let me emphasize that so much HAS happened since 2015 and that video, having a new prez that is making huge changes. this is american politics at the core and what is going on behind closed doors. things that those outside of the country really do not know about. even those here have no idea or refuse to see. thus the term "those awakening." the lies are endless, i guess what i'm also stating is this is old news and a country based on economics as was the theory is changing. bankers, big business, men just out for money ... slavery. it gets deep. is this worldwide and interconnected, yes!

You didn't use the word "shill", you used the word "sellout", I stand corrected :-)

bankers, big business, men just out for money ... slavery. it gets deep. is this worldwide and interconnected, yes!

We agree on that to.

What we must respectfully disagree on is, I guess, that much has changed since Trump's election. As far as I, from the outside, can see is that "the swamp" is alive and kicking. His secretary of the Treasury (the most powerful position), for example, is an ex Goldman Sachs partner during the period that led to the 2008 economic disasters. Steven Mnuchin specialized in hedge-fund management, his profession was betting with other people's money, not the skills I would want for the person who is supposed to guard the treasury.

But... That's only what I can distill from the little news I follow and I certainly don't follow all of it, so I'm grateful for your additions and responses from within "the belly of the beast", so to speak :-) Maybe Trump will surprise the world yet, I surely do hope so. <3

yes a lot more going on than that, and who better than to "guard" the money as you say then someone who knows how to invest. he didn't steal the money like so many others. yes, as far i guess as you have seen and maybe watch there isn't much. however, from my perspective so many things are happening. firings, resignations, and many who are being busted for child porn/slavery, the thing is coming down. most of which does not hit mainstream media but underground media. most of us laugh at what people actually watch. those that are awake and aware understand that this thing as in the system is going down. the one as we know it including "economics." but only to rebuild again. we are in the right place.

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