No Such Thing As Palestine by RockingMrE
A Thorough Historical Investigation Of A Controversial Subject
Why have I been showing these videos and making this commentary that criticizes people who I usually defend
Well first of all just because I defend someone doesn't mean I think they're above reproach and secondly I think it's always good to even examine yourself for evil let alone other people who you defend.
Most of all I want to show you this YouTube commentator RockingMRE.
I want to show you that he was by no means biased for the Jewish people and in fact looked at them clearly and the from an often Christian point of view which some might characterize as negative.
He has a clear view about Islamic imperialism coming from a culture that freshly remembers what it was like to live under the domination and oppression of Islamic imperialism.
Being Greek he knows full well what it's was like under Ottoman rule, he knows the meaning of being a second class citizen in your own country in short he knows the meaning of what being a dhimmi is.
So I found his video on the subject of israel-palestine to be very inline with my own opinions on the facts regarding the Israel and Palestine.
This might be considered a hardline opinion there being "No Such Thing As Palestine" but even if your main concern is land for the Arabs commonly known as Palestinians then you should be happy to know that seventy eight percent of British Mandate Palestine was bequeathed as a homeland for them it's called Jordan.
Carving another 5 percent of the country out of the middle won't save the Arabs if seventy-eight percent didn't help them and it will certainly harm the security of the country so much so in fact that opponents of giving their enemies a base inside their country call the pre 1967 borders the aushwitz borders
Except it wasn't the British to Give, in the very first place. Displacing people, 4% or 1% is displacing people. That mass migration wasn't with the invitation of the people who's lands were "bequeathed" what the fuck kind of reasoning is that "we gave them 3/4's back of what we took and giving them back 5/8 is too much if they aren't satisfied with the 3/4ts" What bullshit rehtoric, they might as well beqheathed only 5%, or they might as well claimed 4 times as much, either way it doesn't change the fact, who the fuck invited them there?
...totally with you on this one. wow. lol
Hey weren't you going to do an article about money for me?
I was. I didn't. lol
Yeah, some people are lost and confused about what real history is. Morality... bah who cares, I'm attached to my identity and bs too much to care about what really happened and whether it was right or wrong... lol.
Well whether or not it was right it still happened, do you object to the creation of Jordan and Iraq as well?
If you object to the way those countries were formed, do object to their present sovereignty over their territory?
Well whether or not it was right slavery still happened, do you object to the slavery in Libya and Saudi as well?
If you object to the way those countries have slavery, do object to their present slavery over their territory?
...just playing with ya! ....😂
....the more pertinent question is , how do 'we' come to consensus of opinion, in an agreed time in history, where countries just 'are' - irrespective of the their histories..
good luck with that one...
The creation of Israel was nothing to do with homelands, and all to do with maintaining geographical presence by the western banks, and control of assets.
(Rothschild money funding the building of the Knesset..?)
..just throwing it in the mix...
I do object to slavery, and I agree that to the power brokers there was no altruistic reason to their actions(when they created Israel), but just like when the British ended the international slave trade the government participated not for moral reasons but for reasons of realpolitik(although the public support for this did come from altruism) none the less the end of the slave trade benefited the victims greatly.
Just like the creation of Israel helped the indigenous jews of the middle east who had been ethnically cleansed from the entire middle east.
As far as I know central banks have a presence throughout the middle east, except in Libya, until now I suppose.
...they ended it because the massive growing technology no longer made then viable economic units of production,( imo)
Indeed, the descendants of the African slaves moved west, are now the richest black peoples in the world.
...the question still remains - how or when (or even if, ) do we suddenly decide 'this area is now a country', 'and 'this area is a now a country', etc?
Otherwise it is perpetual conflict brokered by the powers that be, that don't give a shit about any specific peoples..
I personally don't decide and prefer not to tell other people what to do(unless I'm paid to do it) I was born and raised in Canada and I'm not leaving whatever anyone else may decide on the legitimacy of my country. Usually we decide if an area is a country with guns. I'm open to other methods but believe it will sooner or later come to guns and the will to use them.
I hope it doesn't come to that, but the the shit show at moment indicates it as a definite possibility....
Do you realise that all your comment does is to perpetuate fallacious conspiracy theories?
And as to how and when 'we' decide to build nations-in the case of Israel, itnwas by a UN vote. It is neither your nor anyone else's place to put the decision into question. Whilst I disagree with you that the creation of Israel had nothing to do with 'homelands', in the Palestinian case, it does not. The PA and Hamas have made a fortune raking in international funds and their only interest is ion perpetuating the Palestinian refugee status. This is why, even after Israel offered them everything they wanted, they refused. And why? Because the Palestinian Authority rejected the ONE Israeli stipulation which was to recognise their right to exist.
such as?
that says so much....
It's my responsibility to question everything. And yours.
Actually, it's not whether or not because fraud has no statute of limitation and reasoning that "they got 3/4ths back" won't make it 3/4 less fraudulent and wrong, and while there's no end to whistleblowers who discuss exactly the terrorism that they witnessed if not outright carried out on their neighbors and ignoring the fact that this was complete militant occupation with the halmark of broken promises and total complete domination over their neighbors, and if these people really cared a bit about their hosts, if they had any kind of respect or goodwill to their neighbors, they would have by now mass migrated to the middle of somefuckingdesertinshame how long would that take?
Anyone who excuses the numerous atrocious acts of the IDF and the people who are behind the state of israel who receives straight MONEY from us Taxpayers every single fucking second of the time while throwing shade on the natives then they are not ready to acknowledge the fraud, deception, the criminality and enormous history of terrorism towards the natives, let alone hold those accountable and RELINQUISH their control, it's as if something that was made of fraud would ever develop into something that was true and had real integrity, one fraud passed down to another in demonstratable succession, no interuption. The obvious answer is always gonna be yes, you object to crime, you object to what is wrong, and you cannot object to what is wrong and excuse it.
I would assert that none of it was Arab land in the first place!
You castigate the IDF which armed forces do you think is a better example of morality? The army of Pakistan? Who receives straight money from you Taxpayers?
Terrorism towards the natives? On both sides?
Would you lead by example and vacate the land your occupying?
No, whose land was it "in the first place?"
It's not me castigating anybody, it's the obvious fact from the horse's mouth, breakingthesilence is my source.
The state of israel.
Correct
Nonsense.
If I was occupying someone else's land by force with COMPLETE and TOTAL DOMINATION and state-sanctioned terrorism and I call myself Israel? Only if I had any inkling of shame.
Again I ask which military force do you think is better than the IDF?
Better? You mean less terroristic. BreakingTheSilence.il.org
Are you like me and prefer the Jordanian response to PLO/Fatah during their extremely successful campaign to stop the Arab National-Socialists from taking over their country commonly known as Black September. They are way better than the IDF when it comes to crushing internal uprisings.
Breaking The Silence?
Jews are self-critical? What a new thought!
Their opponents using their self-criticism against them that's a new game, oh wait I forgot about the Catholic Church.
I wonder when the country bequeathed to muslim south asians will Break the Silence about their slaughter of 3 Million people in nine months!
Curated for #informationwar (by @openparadigm)
Relevance:All the reasons @openparadigm takes Israel's side
The reason is that he knows the history and does not take propaganda as fact.
Excellent history lesson. Thank you for promoting truth. @ironshield
Thank you for taking the time to check out my post.
Israel didn't exist until 1948 when the British mandate ended and the zionists self-declared the land theirs, as if no other majority people was living their prior to there influx into the region for the past century from zionist efforts. Get real with history. Call it whatever you want, there was another people living there that zionsits stole. It's like hey let the various china-town, italian-town, or whatever ethnicity in your closest major city self-declare themselves a country and see if you're existing people and country doesn't have an issue with that. What if Chinese money was buying up a large part of your community so that they could take it over, how would you like that? Not to mention there was the Stern gang and Irgun terrorist zionist groups that did a lot to get the Brits out and let them the zionist agenda take over that land region.
The IDF is the other terrorist group, Zionist or not and that's from the mouth of the IDF itself through the whistleblowers at breakingthesilence.il.org (used to be only .il, they thought banning the domain would solve anything).
The IDF is the furthest thing from being a terrorist group. Your comments illustrate your anti-semitism very clearly-you do not even try to hide it.
http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/database
I quite like the Chinese people buying up my country, good neighbours, great landlords!
You bring up the Irgun and Stern yet make no mention of the leader of the Arabs of palestine being a member of the Nazi's or his operation that successfully ethnically cleansed Iraq of all its indigenous Jews(the Farhud) in 1941.
On many sides
Nope.
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Nothing new here. People with power take what they want and the displaced will continue to fight back.