A New Paradigm for Politicals No more Left vs Right Now it's Top vs Bottom(Yes I'm a Top)steemCreated with Sketch.

in #informationwar7 years ago (edited)

For quite some time I've been pondering how to address the false dichotomy presented to us of right vs left, how every four years or so we're presented with a choice between different lawyers and told that there is some kind difference if we elect the one or the other.
I laughed at the wave of euphoria that accompanied the election of Barrack Obama around the world. Noting that his election was a giant propaganda coup for the United States changing how the USA was perceived for no reason whatsoever. I'm laughing even harder now as everyone around me engages in non-stop, consecutive eight minute hates against Donald Trump again for no reason whatsoever!
The level of emotional involvement people have with the drama play enacted periodically astounds me. Like @everretmickey says right wing left wing, same bird, a vulture!
I noticed this growing up every four years or so the opposite party would be elected and half the people were happy that everything was finally going to be done right and the other half of the people were loudly complaining about the road to ruination that we were on and nothing was ever going to be the same. Flip, rinse, repeat ad nauseum!
Well today I saw a video that really lays out what's important
Not right vs left but top vs Bottom with bottom being any " ism" that cedes authoritarian control over you or your stuff vs the top being self-ownership, liberty, equality before the law and the right to be judged on merit alone.

Here is the video I hope you find it insightful!

Matt Kibbe
The Deadly Isms Episode 1: Up From Totalitarianism
Published on Aug 23, 2017
CRTV

This is my first post under the #informationwar tag I hope you enjoyed my irreverent take on the paradigm shift that we are witnessing, where words are starting to mean something again.
Long Live Truth!

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There is no Half the people when only 1/3 is registered to vote and not everyone even shows up, and the approval ratings of congress HAVE reached single digits.

The main myth that needs dispelling is that the UNITED STATES is a Government, when the UNITED STATES is nothing but a Foreign, Mostly Foreign Ran, Corporation. They are not government but in charge of government services, they swear oaths to a Corporate charter, the United States Constitution, and not the Federal Constitution of 1868 or the actual Constitution for the united(adj) States of America. It's all Semantic Deceit, research the Glossa and Justinian Deception. There is nothing more essential on the subject of truth than making these distinctions so that we at least have a clear understanding of the real problem, we can clearly see the false dichotomy of left vs right with the temporary employee the president as the face of it all yet if we assume that they are something they aren't then they are gonna laugh at you all the way to the bank.

I wasn't talking about voting or even participation, Just people whining or cheering alternately.

Yes, and I steered away so that we aren't discussing the false dichotomy of Losers Winners where neither You, nor I fit in.

I reckon we're all autarchs in actuality, although we play plebs in real life.

Good to see you commenting. Have you been well?

Yes, doing my rounds of soapboxing :D

Though I agree that the only way to truly save the world is through freedom and voluntary cooperation those are unattainable ideals in a capitalistic society. As long as there is "ownership" there will be those that will exploit their fellow man in order to own more. YOU may be a good natured human being, but not everyone is and it only takes a few to amass money and power to subjugate the working class.

Such should be the role of government: to act on behalf of the people towards these corporations setting boundaries that ensure each person who contributes is properly taken care of and has a voice that is loud enough to say no.

If the free market worked WalMart would be out of business. Despite exploitative business practices we still shop there for better prices. That's not the government's fault, that's human greed.

Now, the government goes far beyond what is appropriate, imposing a number of laws that are based on emotion rather than practicality, but that is a problem that should be fixed through your vote, not the dismantling of government.

That said, should we as a society decide that capitalism has served it's purpose and we wish to move on to a different system then yes, do away with government and let the people be free. Just know how tenuous such a world would be, and how easily freedom can be stolen by tyrants.

You took the words right out of my mouth. To imagine changing our form of government or having no government at all imo is as fantasy uptopia as the Socialist fantasy. We've got to fix what we've already got. Our Constituion isn't our problem it's us straying 'from' it. We should use our energies to get the States and individual powers BACK and dismantle the unconstitutional unelected agencies which usurp Congress' power to legislate!

What are these unelected agencies? It sounds like something the US government would do, but I can't think of any examples.

Interestingly enough, I'm a democratic socialist myself. Although our methods differ, I think we see a lot of the same problems, many of which apply here in Canada albeit to a smaller scale. I see this as two main problems:

First, our political parties; Republicans and Democrats in the states, Conservatives and Liberals here, are beholden to special money interests. It's such a deep rooted issue, as the people currently elected don't want to vote money out of politics because that's what pays for their yachts. Mandating only small money donations or publicly funded (with VERY small budgets) elections I think are some solutions.

The second problem is the wealth gap. When you give a multi-millionair $50000 they probably won't use that money. It'll sit in a bank, or in investments that contribute minimally to our society. When that money is given to the poor and middle class it gets spent on necessities and maybe a few luxuries, injecting that money back into the economy to keep money flowing through the system. That's why I feel that having some social programs is the practical solution, single payer healthcare being the big debate in the US that I support (I'm pretty happy with our social programs in Canada).

Now, capital S socialism is a completely different beast and a system that is doomed to fail. As seen in Venezuela, if you try to eliminate capitalism your country is going to fall apart. You need a balance, which any successful nation has to some extent.

Ultimately though, whatever your view of what's best for the country, both of our countries need an overhaul of our governing bodies. I kind of lost hope in Trump when he filled his cabinet with millionaires, but it's early in his presidency. Perhaps he'll drain the swamp yet.

I'm talking agencies like the EPA (enviornment) & HHS (the new health services Obama created). These agencies contain 'unelected' appointed positions which Congress allows to create law & regulation. That is a power only Congress is 'supposed' to possess. Doesn't matter which Party has the power, neither seem to care. Until Trump. He is busy trying get undo alot of this power grab. So far...

Interesting. I previously through the EPA was an advisory council, which I think is very important to have; politicians aren't experts in health or the environment so they should have such agencies to offer guidance; however, the fact that they can actually pass regulations seems like a gross sidestepping of democracy.

Up north here we have Members of Parliament (MPs) form caucuses that go and seek out expert advice to bring back to parliament for discussion. To my knowledge, nothing gets passed at a federal or provincial level by anyone who is unelected.

I think there's an argument to be made that a country the size of the USA occasionally needs more decisive action than congress can provide, particularly with health and environmental issues, but one must ask where they draw the line between efficiency and liberty and what are the future implications of that choice. Sort of a question of how long it takes until you have a "Department Of Public Decency".

Hey @johnyliltoe have you heard of #teamcanada ?
We're taking over the interweb you find all our diabolical plans on discord at PAL server under teamcanada.

Yeah nothing wrong with an advisory board or something but no, these agencies actually create 'and' enforce law! Most of what was in the Obamacare bill rammed through Congress was a skeleton. The HHS then added to it as Katleen Sibelius saw fit. It's complete subversion of our Constitution. Like a bunch of mini kings with dominion over their particular area assigned to them. The EPA has been out of control. Thev've been starving farmlands of water to save the turtles & shit. They push the 'man-made global warming hoax and basically are extreme Left ideologs. You see all the real enviornmentalists pushed out. Like the founder of Greenpeace who abandoned the movement when he saw how bastardized it had become. These are the powers we Trumpsters are looking for him to help give back. The States are the ones who are supposed to decide what regulations are important to them.

See, that's where I'd have to disagree. The actions of the states affect those around them, being in such close proximity to each other. If New York decides to completely deregulate pollution it can spread to New Jersey and Pennsylvania. If Nevada decides they want to dump toxic waste into Lake Mead then that runs through the river systems of Arizona and California.

Ultimately the problems an individual state could cause is far wider reaching than just that independent state, so federal regulations are necessary. Still, that should be for congress to have the final say, not an appointed agency.

I never said Federal regulation shouldn't be done. It just shouldn't be done by unelected appointees. If Congress feels a need to regulate something then use the powers given to them and regulate ya know? But it's become a work around to avoiding Congress. By fringe Left ideologues. That's precisely why the Dems passed Obamacare like they did setting up the HHS with it's powers. All throught the bill it says something to the effect of 'as head of HHS determines'. Which now gives Trump that power with 'his' appointee.

That's the whole problem with these agencies. It becomes a back and forth Left/Right game now. Whichever Party wins apoints their people and they, all on their own begin writing new laws without the consent of the people. It's not up to them! 'That' is what effects all the States. These whackos create all kinds of problems for farmers & whatever industry the choose to hate at the moment. It's not that Republicans (and I use that term loosely because the Republican Party is almost as establishment as the Dems) but on a whole, Republicans are the only chance of getting back to the Constitution. I like to say 'Conservatives' because half the Republicans are swamp creatures too (RINOS - Republican in name only). That's why it's so much easier for Dems to shove things through and Trump can't. We're still draining the Republican swamp. Democrat voters are not draining theirs. Not sure if theirs will ever get drained though. They've moved so far Left that a lot of their voters are either disgusted with both Parties and now call themselves Independents or they took the red pill and are now Trumpsters.

I'm sorry. I thought you were a fellow American...lol But I totally agree with your thinking. GO TRUMP!

33 fall 15 can recover

That was a pretty good video. Are we an ISM. Steemitism?
edit: I will need to watch some of the others, one ISM he seemed to have not mentioned at all was Individualism.

I feel like that was what he was proposing for the Top individual rights, freedoms and ownership.

Yes, I believe he was , I was just looking for more, and am sure on some of the other videos he goes greater into depth.

It was titled the deadly Ism's of which he at least believes individualism isn't, lol

That's funny, I did not see that. : - }

is steemit for more or less government?

I think this aspect of steemit is 100% government. I, You, Him, Her, or It, can ell people what to do when we want to, we can order them to do things, we can make our own rules, we can break our own rules, we can be to the left or to the right or in the middle. We are all Presidents of steemit. So I am thinking we are for more government, just not the way most people look at it. We are, or seem to be, all Dictators, in our own little anarchist government. bleah, just my random moment of seeing the post right off the cuff remark.

what force can you bring to bear?

And fire is extinguished with water, and that in turn becomes steem. Uhh Steempower? Did i get it right? Do I win the prize? ohh, oh yeah reality strikes back, it's just a comment thread. no prizes.

THIS needs to be hardwired into people sponges -oops- brains

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Defintions of what we are arguing about are necessary to critical thinking, and therefore when applied to politics become #informationwar, especially when people try to hide or blur their own or their opponents ideology

good post, but I'll come back as @stevescoins, and dispute a point ;>

I'll gird my loins in preparation,lol

oops, meant to comment on this earlier. gonna take a rain check tho

Apparently I got it all wrong, but this guy Knows what he's talking about,LOL
https://steemit.com/politics/@drdave/seeking-knowledge-and-the-ability-to-understand-and-interpret-it-marxism

honestly; I haven't even checked your post yet...it just keeps getting set back

I'll skim this guy now (ugh, wish I didnt)

we only need to do leftism RIGHT this time

I had fun commenting!

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