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Collectivism can especially be seen in Asia for example, historically speaking. Collectivism can only be as good as the group, the tribe, the collection. The problem is when authoritarians manipulate that type of system to pressure the majority of the people who want peace and security. So, people end up not questioning authority. They end up not asking questions. Collectivism is the crowd. It is peer pressure. It can also be a type of mob-ruling democracy. I prefer a republic over a democracy.

(IFF) you rule-out BOTH authoritarian hierarchies (AND) mob rule (democracy) (THEN) what the heck is left?

What is your personal idea of "the most perfect society (that's still realistically) possible"?

And by the way, a republic is just a hybrid of authoritarian and democracy. Mixing the two together doesn't solve either "problem".

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