A tech-geek look at immigration... DDOS attacks possible

People at work were sharing the memes that "resonated" with them this morning and mostly they involved immigration. They were appropriately damning such as.
"All Lives Matter, now stay the hell out of my country."
This made me think of the issue of immigration from a tech point of view.
I responded saying "You need some kind of DDOS protection."
For those of you that may not be familiar with the term, it is probably the most common form of attack on the internet to temporarily cripple parts of the internet, or slow it to a crawl.
DDOS = Distributed Denial Of Service attack.
It works by having as many computers and devices as you can get attempt to access a site at the same time. Most internet circuits and the servers are designed to handle a certain amount of traffic. The more you want to handle, the more expensive it is.
So businesses/governments/universities will usually make a projection on what they believe the maximum they need is. They will purchase servers, and internet circuits with that in mind.
DDOS attacks are essentially far more traffic suddenly going to that circuit and server than it was designed to handle.
The server and circuit do not stop, but they are so over loaded that everything slows WAY down. If the load is high enough it can actually appear to be stopped. In some sense it will be perceived by legit users as being DOWN because their computer will see such a delay in response it will do what is called a TIMEOUT and will indicate failure to connect.
So what does this have to do with immigration?
You have a nation with a certain amount of resources, a certain amount of jobs, a certain amount of homes, a certain amount of hospitals, a certain amount of schools, etc. Making more of those things is not FREE. In the case of resources it may also not be possible. Now if you already have unemployment, and homeless populations then it is likely that is an indicator there are already more people not getting service. There are cases where that is self imposed, but that is not always the case.
The government set immigration amounts on the U.S. long ago based upon studies of what our infrastructure could handle based upon births, deaths, etc. This was not done to be mean, or a nasty person. This was done because, it is REAL. It isn't magical thinking land where we CAN welcome everyone without having a problem.
What you can end up with is something similar to a DDOS in a computer. If you have more people coming in than the infrastructure can handle then you will increase the number of legit people that cannot get service.
In computers we block IPs, contact upstream carriers to route traffic around, hire DDOS mitigation services, etc. These things are not perfect.
In the real world we deport people when they come in illegally beyond that quota that our infrastructure can handle. To do anything less is utter stupidity. Because, you feel bad about sending someone who came here illegally does not suddenly magically make more resources, jobs, homes, hospitals, etc appear out of thin air.
At some point you realistically realize that we can only do so much. The other alternative is to tell people that are LEGALLY trying to immigrate here that they cannot, because we gave their spot to an illegal immigrant. At which case that'd inspire a lot of people and the floodgates would open. Why legally immigrate here if you can illegally immigrate and get away with it?

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Everything of that is wrong, except the first in some parts. Everything else is something that can be changed. Quite fast, if you really want to.
"without having problems"
I think that is the point, right?
Somewhere when there is more then a bit of background noise immigration you actually have to adjust a few things to it. You can call it life - or you can call it problem.
So here is the problem.
If a poor country can somehow manage to support 50% of their inhabitants coming as refugees, then the Mightiest and Richest Country in the World should be able to handle 1/100th of that, 0,5% additional immigration.
Especially when it is responsible for a sizeable chunk of it.
Let me simplify it...
If your nation is a RAFT then the buoyancy of that raft can only hold so many people regardless of GOOD intentions. If you ignore that buoyancy and permit anyone on because you feel guilty of leaving them off then eventually it WILL sink. That cannot be avoided.
However, if you study births, deaths, resources, etc you essentially can treat deaths as people getting off of the raft. Births would be people getting on the raft. Resources would be changes to either increase or decrease the size/buoyancy of the raft depending upon changes in resources. You can then determine a realistic amount of people that you can bring onto the raft without sinking it.
THIS is the purpose of limiting immigration to a finite amount each year. This is the LEGAL immigration.
The problem is that people react to GUILT and their desire to save anyone without stopping to think if the raft can carry everyone or not.
So setting limits does not mean the person has no compassion. It does not mean the person is selfish or uncaring.
It may simply be that the person realizes that allowing everyone that wants onto the raft at once without any kind of controls is a recipe for disaster.
How rich a country appears in FIAT money does not necessarily reflect it's infrastructure, how many jobs it has, etc. In fact that ILLUSION could be what drives people onto the raft when it pops... and things get bad.
Truth does not care if we are comfortable or uncomfortable.
Reality does not care if we wish it were otherwise.
That analogy is quite off. For example you cannot build more schools on the raft, but you can in the US.
Anyway...
If I look at pictures from the US it loos like f****** nearly everyone drives SUV or even Pickups and drives even if it is just a mile (or less) down the town street.
With that clown car behavior alone you could feed and house and school and healthcare a few million people if you would just use a slightly less ridiculous car and a drive a bit more healthy, meaning less, and walk that mile.
So no, I cannot accept that "determine a realistic amount of people" because that amount is again based on things that are easily changeable - if you were just willing to get up out of your cushion a little bit. And create infrastructure instead of clown cars for example.
You appear to be one of those people that believe in "magical" free stuff. Since that was the qualifier for my statement which you said "everything" was wrong. You also refer to it as simple.
Tell you what...
Why don't you go buy a rat cage...
and then every day buy another rat
Stick it in the cage.
Doesn't matter how much food, space, etc you have... you said it's easy
make it work...
Just keep on shoving rats in there.
See what happens...
Oh and if you have a problem with rats, you can use gerbils, rabbit, turtles, whatever you want.
The experiment should work the same...
But it's easy right?
Also I am not down voting any of that stuff. I don't down vote for disagreement. You and I are getting down voted by @asshole and yes that is his/her handle.
yes that asshole was flagging several comments in stellabelles post, too.
Well I just wanted to make sure you knew it wasn't me. I won't flag you for disagreeing.
Which is bullshit. That is what they want you to see. I have two broke down cars, one from 2001, and one from 1998. I have another that we got because we take care of my wife's parents and they live with us. It is a 2005.
And the analogy is an ANALOGY.
You also cannot build anything for FREE which is what my initial statement said... that you said was COMPLETELY wrong (absolute = logical fallacy you made).
You stated "everything of that is wrong". Do you live in a fairy tale? Where can you build more of those things for FREE?
I never said anywhere you can have it for free. I don't know how you got that idea.
Of course someone has to work to build something (robots are not that good atm).
But that is no problem, since you have millions of immigrants wanting to work, right?
You said everything in that is wrong except the first. This was resources. Yet if you read what I wrote says that making more of those things is not FREE.
Thus, your everything would imply that you can do it for free. Those things are FIXED and cannot be changed for free. They can be changed, but you can't pretend it will magically happen. You must allow immigration based upon what you HAVE, not what you would LIKE TO HAVE. If you increase the infrastructure then you can increase the immigration. It is stupid to increase the immigration without first increasing the infrastructure to support it.
The problem is that we have millions of people that are not immigrants that want to work right now as well and cannot.
This can be for various reasons and SOME of those are there own fault, and others are not. Here are various current circumstances.
That is only three of the more common instances. I agree with you on the robots. I saw a Big Mac ATM machine the other day. That didn't make me very hungry. :)
We have millions of ILLEGAL immigrants. Legal immigrants are not the issue.
My quote stopped before the sentence with the free.
Hence my "everything" aimed at the quoted part did NOT include free.
You say there are a lot of people without work? So you have MORE resources then you need!
Also there are no illegal immigrants. Immigrants are person and no person is illegal. There position in your country might be illegal. I know that sounds awfully nitpicking, but it is important.
There are people you want in your country and there are those you don't want.
From that point an you can look at the reasons why you want it that way. Don't put a law there, because a law is no reason.
Before you get too much further... I want to make a clarification...
My analogy with a DDOS attack is about an event occurring in a CURRENT time based upon current servers, internet circuits, etc.
It is not about the FUTURE. When you are being DDOSed it is happening right then. It doesn't matter that you can call an internet provider and schedule a time to get more bandwidth. You are still being DDOSed right then.
This is why the analogy works.
If Immigrants come in BEFORE you've increased your infrastructure to handle them that is happening NOW. It doesn't matter that you could have more infrastructure in the FUTURE. Your economy and environment are impacted in the PRESENT.
Excellent analogy! I think that is the most detached and rational perspective I've seen on this topic.
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