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I can understand that viewpoint as well. The argument is definitely there, especially looking through history to now.

Just curious, do you consider yourself in general an optimist or pessimist? I'm wondering if there is any correlation to that answer and the 'human nature' question.

I'm an optimist as i believe the future holds good things for people. However I do believe that there are consequences in the long term of our actions in our lives without moral help.

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