Homestead Permt Applications Part 2 - Who You Talk to Matters

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In the previous post, I finished saying that I had become discouraged and demotivated with the paperwork needed for our development permit. The development permit deals with the earthworks and tree clearing that we wanted to do for our yard site and was needed before the building permit which we are still working on, coincidentally.

RoughA rough sketch of the floor plan that we needed for the development permit. For the building permit we need professionally drafted house plans.

Time to Buckle Down

Earlier this spring though, crunch time had arrived. I could no longer delay working on the development permit. I needed to get it processed and approved before May long weekend because I had already pre-planned the earthworks project for that weekend.

The equipment was to be delivered and a few of Aimee's family members, who were experienced with heavy equipment, had scheduled to spend their time operating them. Without a permit, the whole project would be scuttled and we might not be able to line everyone's schedules up again this summer.

I spent several nights after the babies were sleeping, working on the permit paperwork with Aimee trying to get everything together. Finally, it was ready to my satisfaction and Aimee was to call the county while I was at work to confirm everything was in order before delivering the paperwork. I generally don't have much time during working hours to deal with this stuff (because I am actually working LOL) and the county office, being government, isn't open evenings and weekends.

Dammit Gloria

When Aimee called, the receptionist she spoke with decided to transfer her to someone more knowledgeable, Gloria (the receptionist from part 1). Aimee described what we had for information and there were a couple things that Gloria wasn't sure about (which was surprising because she acted like she knew what she was talking about earlier) so she put Aimee through to another employee that dealt specifically with the development permits.

Aimee caught her up on what we had planned and was told that some of the forms we had been given we didn't need to fill out at all. They were for larger developments like subdivisions...

gradingA simple grading plan that we needed for our development permit.

I had spent several days working on this paperwork and pouring over county and provincial legislation and code to make sure all this was in order and I didn't need it after all? The biophysical assessment, which was what I was most worried about and had the most issues trying to figure out, wasn't needed among other things. We even had an environmentalist visit the property to ensure the forms were accurate, as a favour to Aimee's dad. Dammit Gloria!

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Further conversations revealed that there were other things that Gloria had told us that were also incorrect. One of the big pieces of misinformation was that while the above ground square footage of a garden house did indeed need to be under 1000 sqft, it could actually have a basement! Again Gloria, how do you have a job? This was a huge revelation and, in some ways, we were lucky to be running a bit behind schedule because we hadn't yet finished selecting our house plans. More on that in future posts.

Having a basement will basically double our potential living space. We will likely hold off developing the basement this year, to keep cost down. When we do decide to finish the basement will give the children a lot more room and a place fore my mother to stay, if she moves in before the second house is built.

Conclusion

I guess, the big moral of the story here is, when dealing with permits and the county don't trust the word of any one person. Especially mentally delayed receptionists who think they know more than they actually do. It is best to speak directly with the people that will be approving your projects and, if possible, verify with other people, or in the county code itself, that what they are telling you is actually correct.


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I wish you could have called me before you started this entire process.
Man 8 foot wide is not going to be a large enough covered porch width you need at least 12 foot.
Everything in home building is who you know. You have to make friends with the Code Enforcement officer. What ever it takes! They are the one with the real answers because they are the one that enforces the codes.

That was a very early drawing. As of right now the house plan shows a 10 foot covered area. I sort of mean it to be a mixed use area and not just a deck. I will probably put brick or paving stone down so we can use it for a patio but also to park a quad or small machinery. We won't have a garage or shop for at least one more year.

Just think about a round table with 6 chairs sitting around it, with other people trying to get around that table with 6 chairs. All the other stuff that you will want to keep out of the weather as well.

Sorry that sounds like such a waste of time. So sad that people are not even competent enough to do their jobs anymore. I think it is crazy enough that you even need a permit to build on your own land to begin with. What we consider freedoms now in the modern day are just illusion of freedom. Hope now that you have what you need and a more knowledgeable person to contact you can get back on track.

Thanks, yeah seems that people not being competent at there jobs is pretty common these days.

I'm glad you'll soon have a dream home, hopefully all your plans run smoothly

I hope your dream home project runs smoothly, bureaucracy is sometimes too annoying

Ain't that the truth!

Those damn bureaucrats do love complicating things, don't they ;)

They sure do. Sometimes I don't think.they even realize that they are doing it.

How's it going? Haven't seen you post.much lately.

We had a similar issue when trying to get our small business set up. Person after person saying the exact opposite thing. UGH, talk about frustrating! I now try to get an email from the person since it usually has all of their "official" information to reference if needed in the future.

An email is a good idea. Leaves a paper trail too so you have proof if you were given bad info.

ABSOLUTELY!

Ah yes, the receptionist is the first obstacle. Hubby figured out how to contact the person we need to deal with when we were getting our fence plan approved.

Middle-men are time and energy consuming. It is best to deal with the person who has the authority to get something done for you :)

Looking forward to the next posts on the progress! And hoping for a smoother ride this time :)

Thanks somehow I doubt things are going to get much easier 🙄

Ouch. Then we'll pray that you have enough strength and wisdom to tackle all the obstacles to get your homestead up and running!

Thanks, I know it will get done. It just is harder then it seems like it should be sometimes.

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