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RE: 🆕 Do You Trust New Users?

in WORLD OF XPILAR10 months ago (edited)

Our platform is unique and was created to reward good content writers. Content rewards have gone in a completely different direction and it's our own fault. The focus is more on earning than creating good content. In my early period on steemit, not many people got my vote, but most of the people I voted for deserved that vote.

Today I vote for many users who are part of the wox community and I wish I had time to find more content creators in the steemit community who deserved a vote.

It's as you say, many join competitions to be able to be rewarded. As you know, I organize a writer's competition based on my digital image. But I have a problem because I can no longer distinguish the stories from whether the author uses his own words or that they use Artificial intelligence (AI) to write the story.
So I wonder if I should even continue this type of competition.

Maybe it's possible to create another type of competition that attracts good writers, because we need that in steemit.
Maybe someone has some ideas for that

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Ai is becoming a big problem but I have to say next to AI there is all the hysteria about AI detectors, which are just as stupid programs as Ai generator. I write in Italian and then I use Google Translator and Grammarly a lot to help me with a decent translation, but if I put the English text in some detectors I find up to 30% Ai and it's not true (that is, it's true because Google Translator and grammarly are AI, but they did not generate the story). I once took hours to fix the part that the stupid detector said wasn't right, I'll never do it again! Sometimes I publish the original text in Italian, but I know very well that automatic translation is crap, so the dilemma is: publish a well-translated text risking the detector or an original text that will seem like crap to English speakers? 😑

For your last question, I think we need to understand and use steemexclusive better and sometimes we can exclude it! If a writer is good and also publishes on other platforms, why can't he publish here and vice versa? In your posts it is written that it must not be published in other blockchains but it can be a text published in other personal sites, and I think it's good, but I think in other communities this is not explained well, I have always thought that steemexclusive excluded any other type of publication until I came accross your post, and perhaps we need to understand this.

Also quality content cannot be written every day, it is very difficult and takes time and effort, so I think that a content can be used several times by its author even on steemit. For example, if someone posted a fantasy story three months ago and then there's a fantasy story contest, why can't they enter with their old post? It's their property. 😎

 10 months ago 

I totally agree - AI detection tools are crap and I don't think they should be used.

Sometimes I publish the original text in Italian, but I know very well that automatic translation is crap, so the dilemma is: publish a well-translated text risking the detector or an original text that will seem like crap to English speakers? 😑

This is an interesting dilemma. In many ways, I prefer users to write in their native language - it's then easier for me to use my preferred translator and it's easier to interpret "mistakes" or "changes" that translators make, knowing that the author's own words have the meaning that they've intended. If I translated my content into Italian without providing the English, I don't know if some of my "feelings" will get lost in translation. The flip-side of this is that I'll sometimes look for new content on my mobile phone, where translation tools are cumbersome and I'll only look for English content.

If a writer is good and also publishes on other platforms, why can't he publish here and vice versa?

This is another interesting dilemma - one reason is the detrimental affect that it has on the SEO of the sites that you don't publish to first. Each post on Steemit, Hive, etc. is automatically marked as "canonical", e.g. for my post...

<link rel="canonical" href="https://steemit.com/hive-185836/@the-gorilla/do-you-trust-new-users"

...this code means it is the master version - i.e. it has not been copied from somewhere else. If Google sees multiple sites set as "canonical", with the same content then it then automatically decides that the most recent (i.e. not the oldest) has been copied, therefore plagiarised and therefore the site is "marked down" as a result... which then affects that site's Search Engine Ranking.

Also quality content cannot be written every day, it is very difficult and takes time and effort, so I think that a content can be used several times by its author even on steemit. For example, if someone posted a fantasy story three months ago and then there's a fantasy story contest, why can't they enter with their old post? It's their property. 😎

Academically speaking, copying your own content is still considered plagiarism. Whilst I agree that you should be able to reuse your own content, and I wouldn't criticise anybody for doing so, a simple solution is to reference your original article... perhaps even with a simple introduction of "I wrote this some time ago ..link.. which appeared to be ignored so I'd like to share it with you again as entry to this contest" or similar. Like an academic reference to your own work 🙂

Excellent comment, thanks for your thoughts 👍

I didn't know the trick of google Seo here 😑, yes could be a problem.

For the self content, for sure, I agree with you, should be done with clear reference and links to the old post! I'm not for re-mixing and recycling old materials out of laziness. But I believe that if when you post you know that the content will last beyond 7 days, it would also be an incentive for quality.

 10 months ago 

you know that the content will last beyond 7 days, it would also be an incentive for quality.

That's a good point. I've come across good content that is more than 7 days old which I'd like to support but "likes" aren't registered and the author won't benefit (whereas I think YouTube still rewards creators years after the initial publishing). This would be a great incentive for increasing quality and that quality would subsequently attract more traffic from Search Engines.

There are so many challenges with regards to maintaining quality. Using me as an example, I know that every post has a minimum amount that it will be voted due to the auto-votes & curation trail support. So (in many ways similar to a voting service), I could write a "lazy post" every day and hope that my current supporters don't lose interest. But that's not me and I take pride in everything I write and everything that I share (including the comments themselves)... which is why that "base level" support exists and I don't post something every day.

Linking back to your other comment, it ultimately comes down to motivation for writing. If users are solely motivated by the rewards, then I believe that comes through in their activity which will probably have a detrimental affect on their rewards. For those that take pride in everything that they produce, it could well be a "slower burn" but once they're alight, they'll burn long and strong.

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 10 months ago 

Thanks @o1eh 👍

 10 months ago 

In my early period on steemit, not many people got my vote, but most of the people I voted for deserved that vote.

Today I vote for many users who are part of the wox community and I wish I had time to find more content creators in the steemit community who deserved a vote.

Your experience is interesting because in many ways, your role in Steemit has changed as the years have passed. When you began, there wasn't the expectation that you support everybody but now, with the responsibility of the WOX curation trail, there's a greater expectation that you're everywhere and everybody gets supported. I think that individual users, who haven't taken the time and effort to create the community that you have won't have that pressure - like when you initially joined.

Maybe it's possible to create another type of competition that attracts good writers, because we need that in steemit.
Maybe someone has some ideas for that

The challenge of AI will continue to be difficult. I performed an experiment recently to see if I could train Chat-GPT to write like me... I might write a post about it because as I start to explain it to you, I think the outcome was quite interesting. Especially as the finished article bore no resemblance to anything that I would ever write.

 10 months ago 

The challenge of AI will continue to be difficult. I performed an experiment recently to see if I could train Chat-GPT to write like me... I might write a post about it because as I start to explain it to you, I think the outcome was quite interesting. Especially as the finished article bore no resemblance to anything that I would ever write.

I would think that Chat-GPT would have trouble describing you, but it would be interesting to see what it would have written

 10 months ago 

https://steemit.com/hive-185836/@the-gorilla/is-this-me-or-chat-gpt

I finally got around to writing the article 🙂

Chat-GPT only has data up to September 2021 so when thinking about new contests, you could use a topic that it won't know about yet.

but most of the people I voted for deserved that vote

That was the original idea. And in this way, the wheat was quickly separated from the chaff (exceptions always confirm the rule, of course).
I liked the system. This also seemed "unfair" at times. That's just life. But it was always fairer than voting EVERYONE (blindly) for EVERY crap...

I can no longer distinguish the stories from whether the author uses his own words or that they use Artificial intelligence (AI) to write the story.

This is becoming increasingly difficult... And this is exactly the reason - long before ChatGPT (automatic text generators have been around for ages, and have also been used diligently on the Steem so far) - why I mainly refer to my little bubble of "mother tongue". In this bubble, I can still judge quite well whether a text was written by a user himself (especially in comparison to previous works). And be it by the mistakes in spelling... ;-)

 10 months ago 

Yes, it is probably easier when you can check it against your own language

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