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RE: The Future of Steem: Community Building is a Complicated Business!

in WORLD OF XPILAR4 years ago

We see Communities core to the future growth of Steem.

Finding the optimal ways to to nuture and develop them to become self-reliant, thriving, open and welcoming Communities is the challenge.

All thoughts and ideas welcome.

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Hello, excuse me. Since you say that as thoughts and ideas are welcome.

  • There are communities for the same topic, as well as different communities for the same country. Why are not all the people of the same country focused on growing a single account? Today everyone wants to manage their own communities because in a certain way only administrators are rewarded. People only care about their personal benefit. If we continue like this, each user will create their own community and there will be the same number of communities as the number of users.

  • The administrators and moderators of country communities are really trying to convince which influential personalities and with the capacity to invest in their country to find out what is happening here in steemit. How is it possible to change the lives of people who are interested in creating quality content? Are they doing the right promotion? They're just bringing people in and teaching them how to withdraw.

It occurs to me that administrators and representatives of communities of countries should seek external support and motivate their followers to do so. Make a suitable promotion and use parts of your rewards to contribute to a promotion that attracts investors (politicians, influencers, entrepreneurs, artists.) People who are really interested in helping the community of their country, and who understand that it can be invest the money and earn interest or profit by rewarding other people's content. That your money will always be there available in case you want to withdraw it when you like, and that by giving a like or positive vote you are contributing to the personal growth of the content creator and in turn you are earning the same, that the more you support the more you can earn .

We wealthy people must collect money from rewards to pay for a promotional advertisement or advertising that allows the information to actually reach the people we need to come.

If it is not possible for the country communities to have an account that is independent and that does not need the mercy of the healing team to reward the members and users of their community, we must at least get investors to come to support.

The current promotions will really be like this? People promote what they want (I have even seen proportions where they misuse company logos ie "The steem stripes with the name of steemit.com" and vice versa. People still do not know the difference of this. Their representatives are Have they been commissioned to let you know?

-We also need a mobile application where people can easily create their account, publish (write the publications with options to center images, justify texts, among others), comment, invest, Power up, transfer, read the publications in any language, etc. Today everything is being done easily from our smartphone and I think that steemit should not be left behind.

These are two ideas that I think will make us become a trend around the world.

I totally agree with you. It hurts me when I see many communities with same topic or even from same country. What could be the purpose of that? The only one answer that comes to mind is those communities are not built to gather the people of same taste, they are built to earn extra vote from @steemcurator01. It is time we thought about it.

Another thing, the CR of each country should motivate every member to build Steem Power. They need to make everyone understand how powering up helps the whole community. Being selfish and withdrawing all Steem/SBD earnt from posts is harmful for both the community and Steemit.

Yes - re multiple communities.

Yes - re Country Representatives.

We will shortly be announcing a new group of CRs. We will be encouraging them, along with the existing CRs, to encouraging people to build their Steem Power.

We are keen to reward those people who are powering up and not constantly extracting their vote rewards.

4 Bangladeshi country communities. It is never possible to increase power by opening more than one community in this way. Earlier steem-bangladesh community had 90000 sp. The sp has decreased due to the opening of new communities there. I think a country needs to have a community.

Many communities are getting support at booming. But they are not powering up. If 4000$ votes are cast per month in a community then at least 7000 sp is generated in that community. Then if everyone power up. Then 7000 sp community will increase every month. But I have noticed many communities whose power is not increasing.

You need to notice these aspects. Admins of every community need to be strict. Those who are not power up. They should not be supported in booming or contest.

4 Bangladeshi country communities. It is never possible to increase power by opening more than one community in this way. Earlier steem-bangladesh community had 90000 sp. The sp has decreased due to the opening of new communities there. I think a country needs to have a community.

I heard from @rex-sumon that you decided to not want to work with him and @tarpan and that was why they created more communities. It seems that you don't know why this been happening and would love to hear the story from your side too

They had already created the community And they worked in their own community. They did not give time to steem-bangladesh community. Besides, they made a mistake. That's why I left them out And the main reason you do not know. I was excluded from their mod If there is no mod, that delegation cannot be kept. Does it make any sense?

Rex-sumon- world of photography
tarpan- world of cricket



But here are the 4 same communities in Bangladesh that have been mentioned. Their admin is other people.

around the world
Bangladesh বাংলাদেশ
Best.Bangladesh

These three communities are not admin tarpan or rex-sumon.

7 new communities are opening in Bangladesh. It is never possible to increase power by opening more than one community in this way.

Yes, that's unfortunate. We were the top SP holder once.

Yes, that would make Steemit the Steemit we dream about!

Very much agree with your thoughts.

We would prefer there to be one unifying community for each country but unfortunately personality differences seem to lead to splits and breakaway communities appear within individual countries.

Likewise for topic communities - although there may be cases for subdivisions of large topic areas into separate communities.

We really really want communities to become more self-reliant and build up their Steem Power to support their own members. When we give generous votes to community accounts we very much expect those to be fully powered up - and certainly not extracted to reward individuals.

The next stage for the development of communities is for them to start reaching out to advertise themselves to the outside world and bring new people to the platform. Ideally people willing to invest and build their Steem Power.

We will be looking out to reward those communities who actively and succesfully do that.

Regarding a mobile app, for the time being, hopefully PLAY STEEM can fulfil that role.


Thank you very much for your contribution here.

Hello

We are working hard to rekindle our steemit adventure that we have left unfinished and to create new user potential, Steemit-Türkiye community in our to encourage new users. We are very happy to support them by doing some activities for the community. In this process, it would be selfish to expect support only from curator accounts.

We do our best to create our own curation by constantly instilling in the users in our community that the correct use of the votes given by the curator and the importance of SP is important. One of the biggest features that distinguishes Steemit Turkey from other communities is that it is a community token.

First of all, we want them to strengthen their personal accounts by directing the users correctly and warning them about sp. It is really difficult to get positive votes at first. Many of our high-quality content in our community just disappears without getting high ratings.

We say that in order to encourage them and keep them on the platform, they should support them by getting votes from the nutbox in return for the tr token we have created and that they should raise this support as sp. We believe that we will create our own curation in a short time thanks to the conscious people in our community. Our work on this subject will continue.

The Steemwomensclub community helps us a lot in this regard, and strives to highlight quality posts among female friends in our community.

Although we as a society have formed different communities, nobody should doubt that we will bring them all together for a single goal. We will continue to work and grow stronger. We will protect our unity, we will always continue to support each other.

In our Steem activity club community, it is aimed to gather and strengthen users from different communities by organizing various competitions. We have a dream, we will continue to work to achieve that dream.

regards

@steemit-turkiye
@habercitr

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The price of steem is the main fact that people couldn't hold themselves to powerdown and not powering up. I remember when you only support 100% powerup post. That time was golden time. Everyone had a lot of steem power. Is there anyway to start that 100% power up post trend again? 200% powerup post isn't promising I guess.

Community split is a great problem. Community account losts a lot of Delegation. Beside a lot of Newcomers'. They doesn't even care of powering up or Delegation.

 4 years ago (edited)

Yes, the increased price of Steem may trigger our greediness. But if we act accordingly that, how can we increase the value of Steem? We need to put aside our greed and believe in Steemit.

We really really want communities to become more self-reliant and build up their Steem Power to support their own members. When we give generous votes to community accounts we very much expect those to be fully powered up - and certainly not extracted to reward individuals.

I totally agree with the goal of a community should be more self-reliant and building up their Steem Power to support their own members.
As for payout reward for the community accounts expected to fully power up, this might be a bit difficult, as building a community takes a lot of time, planning, and organizing & administering a contest, especially if the participants or members are many. I think moderators who help in the process of building the community should be rewarded/incentivized with some portion of the payout reward, as I believe the majority of those coming to Steemit and offer to help to build a community expecting that their work is rewarded.

It seems that it is not easy, just look, almost all existing communities only empower a small group of community members, maybe even only their closest relatives, there needs to be an equal distribution of positive votes for members who have tried hard to work or create content so that no one feels abandoned by its own community.

To put it on behalf of the Steem Women club, we have understood your goal. That's why we get stronger by making SP for all the rewards you give. We hope that one day we will be high-voting communities without depending on you Our goal and goal is common. It pleases us that you inform us in this way. For the communities of the country, the biggest problem falls on the country representatives. Whoever is in Steemit must be a fair system. Vote for the employee and those who work. the communities of the country should also vote in this way. If not, why still there is a representative? I will provide equal support for both my community and people in my own country. Thanks for your support to us.

Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con esto, tratar de instruir a qué todos debemos trabajar arduamente para construir nuestro steem power y que sea valorado el contenido de calidad de todos los que hacen vida en este ecosistema. Es difícil casarse con una sola comunidad porque existen muchos Steemians que tienen multifacetas y desean desarrollarlas todas en steemit. Deseo que todos los grandes talentos de la plataforma sean recompensados justamente.

 4 years ago (edited)

I agreed With You! Steemit needs people who wants to build and not just take money a leave.

I think people that work for You "CR" "curators" must encourage people to power Up

If You need a curator for a BETTER LIFE WITH STEEM PROJECT, I am available I have posted some Digest examples, and I am powering up every post I Made

If there is something that I can help With let me know

Las personas por naturaleza son egoistas, son pocos los que se preocupan por el bien de otros, deseo que pronto, esto pueda arreglarse y personas como yo sigamos publicando y creciendo en esta plataforma, aun hay mucho por aprender y seamos mas fuertes cada dia, bendiciones!!

I totally agree with you sir , we should try our best to spread Steemit platform so that we could help more and more people and make them invest on steem

Muy bien lo que dices, todos queremos crecer y aportar. Pero pasa algo, he visto post que ustedes sugieren sean de calidad; para ello el orden y lineamientos del texto, imágenes y coherencia. Resulta que mientras muchos lo hacen no reciben apoyo y otros desorganizados si. Entoces dónde está el apoyo para los que se esmeran, como tú dices administradores y representantes reciben por todo.
Y no es secreto para nadie, muchas muchas personas cierran sus post en CERO y no por un día, sino hasta por semanas. Mi pregunta es: cómo avanza en SP si no le dan la debida oportunidad?

Como tú dices: debe haber equidad, así todos ayudan a crecer todas las comunidades. La constancia ayuda a obtener votos y los votos ayudan a las personas para que ellos crezcan en STEEMIT.

Start by getting to know your Country Representatives...

No estoy reclamando en lo absoluto, estoy dando una opinión que me parece que puede ser válida para eso fue la publicación para que cada usuario que tiene una duda, incomodidad o simplemente curiosidad le sea respondida. De igual manera estoy muy agradecida con todo lo que he obtenido de esta plataforma. Y sigo publicando a diario para crecer y hacer crecer a las comunidades. No he delegado aún porque tengo una meta en SP y cuando se cumpla mi prometido haré un gran apoyo.

Totalmente de acuerdo contigo amiga @angelva muchos de nosotros, en particular en mi caso no he obtenido el suficiente apoyo que me ayude crecer y avanzar en SP y asi poder dar las debidas delegaciones para las comunidades donde nos suscribimos y poder crecer juntos.

You only started in March, and looking at your wallet all you have done is cash out your SBDs.

Si tiene muchisima razon @steemcurator01 pero con todo respeto que usted se merece, también ha notado que he hecho publicaciones que están al 100% SP ? y en cuanto a lo de los retiros de los 4 sbd que me han asignado durante el tiempo que tengo en la plataforma ,creo que para nadie es un secreto que tenemos que invertir para comprar materiales y
así tratar de publicar contenido de calidad en algunas comunidades que estamos suscritos y disculpe si he ocasionado alguna incomodidad por mi comentario.

I also 2 days ago thawed steem for expenses my dad was sick if I didn't need to charge I wouldn't thaw steem

A veces callamos porque de una u otra manera tenemos un excelente beneficio. Y callamos porque simplemente por opinar creen que estamos haciendo un reclamo de mala manera y no es así.

Bueno, espero que por nuestras opinion no seamos perjudicados...saludos.

🙏

 4 years ago 

I appreciate the encouraging words!

Communities are essential, to be sure. Let's consider how people USE the web, and social media. These days, very few people talk about being "ON Facebook" as a standalone idea. Most users have Facebook accounts so they can access groups or pages they are interested in. Nobody says "Join Facebook," people say "find my PAGE on Facebook," or perhaps "Join XYZ community on Facebook!" The base level Facebook has just become a framework, but not the star of the show. I believe Steemit is moving in that direction, as well... people will become directed towards country communities or interest groups, with Steemit merely being the "wrapper."

I'll probably write more about that, and on the code end, there might also be a place to support community development via subdomains: For example, the post was created via the Xpilar community... but for marketing purposes, why not have an actual domain called "xpilar.steemit.com?" Or any number of other things.... aceh.steemit.com, foodies.steemit.com, etc. Again, too much to explore and explain in a comment...

And then, the all-important issue of retention. It doesn't mean much to get a bunch of accounts created if their owners aren't actually active.

Agree very much. It will be good to see new developments.

We hope we will see more developments emerging from community developers as in the past with the likes of SteemPeak and SteemPress. Hopefully SteemField will be able to do that.

We look out to reward such endeavours and we are looking for a new set of community developers to come forward.

Thank you re the subdomain idea - we are exploring to see if that can be readily implemented.

Thank you

Hello @steemcurator01, I just recently reached 5,000SP and it's many thanks to you and the rest of the steemit team.

I'm planning to try out delegations for the first time and I'm impressed with @upvu in particular. I've made an enquiry and I found their offer very lucrative only that it includes daily upvotes.

Please what do you think? Is it vote buying? Or is the upvote just an extra given to a delegator in addition to daily steem tokens?

Thanks.

Why not curate yourself with your Steem Power, or delegate to one of the Communities if you don't want to do the curation yourself.

You are welcome to delegate to upvu, but we do not generally vote on posts voted for by upvu as it is not Proof of Brain.

as it is not Proof of Brain.

Definitely.

You're completely understood. I guess I choose the 'curate myself' option.

Thanks @steemcurator01 for your time.

 4 years ago (edited)

Please forgive me... I want to report the temporary statistics of Participants who have successfully registered as participants in the zoominar with the theme Promo-Steem Design With Zoom App | Zoominar Blogging Earn Money with Steemit

I am happy to read your writing @denmarkguy

The first social media I knew was Facebook in 2007, Facebook was very popular, I could communicate with other people and also share information, but I have not been very active on Facebook since 2014 because I felt that there was nothing interesting there. but i use facebook if there is something useful for me. like I did a steem ad there.

Regarding the community, building a community is very easy, but the challenge is how we manage and maintain people in the community.

sir @ stemmcurator I agree we will see the future growth of Steem.

But I have a little advice for a system to create a community on Steemit. Since I returned to being active, I saw so many communities on Steemit, some were large and some were also inactive and strangely enough, there were several communities with the same country community name.

it makes new users who join confused where to go, and if this continues and many communities of the same country are created. how do we keep them in the future? and how you will give them a fair vote in the future

I'm talking about state communities, not communities that are creative and have their own themes

regards
arie

 4 years ago 

Good point @arie.steem; perhaps one of the things that really needs to be addressed is a redesign of the Steemit user interface... it was designed and remains mostly unchanged since long before there were communities. If the future of Steemit is going to be communities, then the UX needs to be heavily invested in making both the navigation and community discovery process easier for those who are not familiar with the workings of the site.

Agree regarding country communities but we cannot prevent people from setting up new communities as they want.

We would like to see people working together in each country.

Ideally the Country Reps and the Promo Steem teams in each country can all come together in one unified country community.

Thank you

Ideally the Country Reps and the Promo Steem teams in each country can all come together in one unified country community.

That is indeed my hope and I have also applied it to PromoSteem, an example that I can give for you as I am close to Anroja and El-Nailul and have worked together on the promosteem agenda at school.

the promoter ghana - mcsamm and nattybongo also works with steem ghana

philippine promoter - julstamban which also works with steemit philipine.

My target is definitely to have a lot of teams and many promoters from each country, however, I also have to see their track record and their activeness in contributing.

In the next few days, we will be publishing several new promoters from other countries.

thank you for your help so far

that's true sir @steemcurator01 the aim of this steemit community is created for a better future program in the world of blockchain, and according to current developments that are so fast, soon this steemit will reach its heyday you have struggled for more than five years, now you will enjoy the fruits of your hard work, sir.

Over time I have tried to read many comments, but one thing that has become very clear is that every country should have a regional community, where all the country representatives will be active, then it will be much easier for everyone to guide new users. Because when there are multiple communities under multiple representatives in a country, new users get confused and try to stay active in multiple communities when it comes to support. As a result they fail to adopt the basic concept and cannot work with long term thinking. Because then their main focus is on getting rewards.

I myself have applied for CR, I want to work together on a platform with everyone in our country, so that as our relationship grows, we will be able to provide the right direction to new users in our country. And be able to get them interested in working with long-term thinking.

Power, Benefit and Rewards Problems have always been and will continue to be, but we must continue our efforts, because unity is strength. Yes, I am not against new communities, because new communities can play a good role in implementing new ideas. But I believe a common community for the country will be able to play a greater role.

Hi @steemcurator01


Hello Sir Assalamu Alaikum. I am new to Steemit. I have just finished class 12 and i am preparing for admission in the university. I am a child of a middle class family. I have many obstacles. I still want to move forward.
I want to do something for myself, I want to do something for the needy helpless people around me. So I want your help sir. I am new but I also write well. Please check my posts a little. And I must with the votes I get. I will power up.I am requesting you, sir, please check my posts once. I will take the time to post between my readings.


Hola como están amigo @steemcurator01 tengo una pregunta y quisiera saber tengo 3 meses publicando y de verdad quisiera saber que hecho de malo, si es que mi publicaciones están malas por que de verdad eh publicado y no me toman encuenta como si fuera yo invisible,de verdad quisiera saber me pueden dar una sugerencia o un consejo por que deber quiero saber y participado en concursos, en votado, eh echo reesteem, eh comentado eh intentado todas mis ideas. Por favor necesito saber, disculpe la molestia gracias.

 4 years ago (edited)

Get involved in one of the Venezuela communities.

Get to know your Country Representatives.

Try maybe posting Diary Games.

And keep posting every day...


You only appear to have done the first Achievement in the Newcomers Community.

Start by completing all the Achievement tasks there.

Amigo @steemcurator01 De verdad disculpe si le estoy quitando su tiempo, pero solo quiero decirle que revise mis publicaciones yo eh hecho todo lo que usted me esta diciendo yo no eh recibido ningún apoyo y yo eh gastado dinero para hacer mis publicaciones, tengo 3 meses publicando todo los día hasta 2 o 3 veces por día solo de verdad le digo que revise mi publicaciones Disculpe las molestias.

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