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RE: 【Middle East Eye】Ilan Pappe warns that Israel's plans for Gaza risk prolonging Palestinian suffering through potential expulsions and annexation, urging international intervention to prevent further atrocities
I did not ask about this known Egyptian Arab terrorist who showed up in 1960s and created PLO in the 1960s that comited dozens of terrorist attacks all over the world. I asked for known Palestinians before 1960s. Since you claim that such nationality and country existed, there must be some known before. Of course, except a known Arab leader from Ottoman Empire and British Mandate, friend of Hitler and nazis Amin al-Hussayni.
Yes, you're right. The idea of being "Palestinian" as a nationality really started to take shape in the 20th century, especially during British rule and with the rise of Zionist immigration. But, even though the concept of a modern Palestinian state came later, we, the people in the area, had always felt connected to our land and heritage.
None of the Arab leaders referred to themselves and other Arabs as Palestinians during British rule. When they called for the extermination of Jews, they always called for Jihad in the name of Arabs. Neither any of the Arabs in the West Bank or Gaza came up with any idea of a Palestinian state (and nationality) state before the 1960s.
Gaza was part of Egypt, and Wes Bank was part of Transjordania. None of the Arabs in either region asked Egypt or Jordan to have their own state. Suddenly they wanted one when they lost those lands after starting another war against Israel.
Arafat completely invented Palestine as a state and nationality in the 1960s after ARabs lost another war to eradicate the Jews from the river to the sea. Also, Arafat invented the genocidal slogan "From the River to the sea, Palestine will be free"
This is the list of Jewish settlements attacked by Arabs before 1947 and during British rule.
Bnei Yehuda (1920)
Tel Hai (1920)
Metula (1920)
Kfar Malal (1921)
Kfar Saba (1921)
Kfar Uria (1929)
Ruhama (1929)
Motza (1929)
Poria (1929)
Gaza (1929)
Hartuv (1929)
Hulda (1929)
Beit She'an (1936)
Although Arabs feel connected to the land, so do Jews. Jewish kingdoms/states existed 3 times in history. Palestinian state never existed.
Many Arabs refused the call of Arab leaders in 1948 that asked them to abandon Israel so they could freely cleanse it from Jews. Although hundreds of thousands left in panic. Many left. Now there are 2 million Arabs living in Israel. They are the children and grandchildren of these Arabs. They have their own political party in parliament and their own judges in the Supreme Court. They have all rights as Israelis. They even created their own IDF brigades in 1948 (that exist until now) to fight against Arabs they attacked Israel.
Please read about the facts. And I mean information from before the year 2000, like official documents, newspaper articles, books and documentaries. Not made-up lies that have been repeated by Al Jazeera since 2005.
Yes, you're right. Back when the British were in charge, Arab leaders usually called themselves Arabs instead of Palestinians, showing the strong pan-Arab nationalist vibe of that era. Resistance, including calls for jihad, was more about Arab unity than a unique Palestinian identity. The concept of being distinctly Palestinian really started to take shape in the mid-1900s, especially after Israel was founded in 1948 and everything that came with it.
Before 1967, Egypt was in charge of Gaza, and Jordan controlled the West Bank. Back then, there wasn’t much talk about creating a separate Palestinian state. This was mostly because of the political situation and the focus on larger Arab nationalist movements. The push for a Palestinian state really picked up after the 1967 Six-Day War, as Palestinians began to seek self-determination while dealing with being stateless.
And yes, that's true. Jews and Arabs both have strong historical and cultural connections to the area. Jewish ties go way back to ancient kingdoms of Solomon and David, while Arabs have lived there for centuries. Things really heated up during the British Mandate, with both sides clashing as they fought for control of the land.
Maybe the two-state solution is a way to handle the conflict? Imagine a future where both Israel and an independent Palestine exist side by side, recognizing each other and living in peace.
This is true.
Palestinians had many chances for 2 state solutions but rejected them all.
For example, in 2005, Israel unilaterally removed all their soldiers from Gaza to show that they would be very willing for a two-state solution and peace. They forcefully removed thousands of Jews from the North of Gaza, including the removal of the Jewish cemetery and moving it to Israel. They left behind all Jewish infrastructure, kibbutzes, farms and greenhouses. These were businesses producing products for international export. The first thing that Gazans did was burn all of this to the ground instead of taking over to continue the business and live there. Then in 2006, they elected Hamas. They could have created a second Singapore there but they chose a life of war, hate and destruction.
The most generous offer for a two-state solution was offered by Clinton to Arafat but he rejected it.
Bill Clinton recently explained what really happened then.
"Bill Clinton addresses Israel–Hamas war at Kamala Harris rally in Michigan"