My own 2 cents about HF23 and PUBLIC WITNESS VOTINGsteemCreated with Sketch.

in Project HOPE5 years ago (edited)
obraz.pngI believe by now, almost everyone on Steem blockchain are aware of the recent hard fork HF23, which took place lately.

Hearing about it for the very first time caught me off-guard and left me quite speachless ...

INTRODUCTION

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.... it's obvious that the conflict between these 2 blockchains (hive and steem) are only escalating and it's hard not to be affected one way or another. I decided to write this post, since several users have asked me on Discord about my personal opinion on this issue and the possible consequences for our PH community. It will allow me to avoid repeating myself and getting even more upset with entire situation.

MY PERSONAL VIEW

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To tell you the truth, I'm absolutely confused and unsure of what to think of it. I have more question than answers. More concerns and worries, than hopes and plans for better future on both chains.

I have only one advice: everyone should be very careful with whatever we write in our comments regarding this issue. I think we're all stepping again on very thin ice and having unpopular views can be very damaging. It's time when one can make new enemies very easily, by simply sharing his own opinion.

MY ADVISE - remove your witness votes

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Many of us voted on Witnesses within the past year or two. At the same time "living" our lives here on Steemit, clueless about big politics and large stakeholders conflicts. Voting on Witness was our right, for which, noone has ever been targetted and punished.

Times had clearly changed.

We've already experienced some restrictions coming from both sides. And one can already feel growing pressure. My impression is that since all our votes are public - we need to assume that many users will be targeted by both parties.

I found it ridiculous that everyone is able to view which witness I voted on, and large stakeholders can bully us and others as well for supporting witnesses who they are in conflict with. For that reason I would suggest to remove all (or most) witness votes on both chains.

WHAT TERRIFIES ME THE MOST

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Will this event may take new precedence and it will most likely create an environment of lack of trust towards our own funds on blockchain. For the first time in my career within this industry I feel that having money in a bank is safer.

It does terrifies me, honestly. Does anyone else feel same way?

A friend of mine, who is a very well respected developer, pointed out that he feels that holding assets on exchanges seem to be less dangerous than holding on STEEM. How ironic is it? My personal trust towards DPOS blockchains has been greatly damaged.

BOTTOM LINE

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It's pretty obvious that the unfolding events are out of our league. We're all just "small fish", who need to find ways to adapt to changing enviroment. Without being "eaten".

So my final advise is: stay safe, avoid having strong opinion on HF23, stay neutral and as far as possible from this conflict and finally: cancel all your witness votes. On both chains. That may allow you to avoid being targetted and dragged into this conflict.

SHARE YOUR VIEW

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Please share your view on that particular issue. I read all comments and I would like to learn what others think. Especially members of Project.hope community.
Just remember to be mindful and polite with your feedback.

Yours,
Piotr

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2 points that I'd like to respond to.

First, cancelling all our witness votes seems quite extreme. But if, as you say, that will prevent us from getting "targetted," then it might be advisable.As it is, I'll wait and see before I cancel any such votes.

Second, let's hope that having money in a bank is NOT safer than having Steem in our online wallets. With all the recent money-printing, any money we have in a bank could lose its value very quickly. And if the shit hits the fan, we could be denied access to our bank-held money – with the few clicks of the banker's mouse.

 5 years ago 

Thank you for being always so responsive and supportive with your comments @majes.tytyty

First, cancelling all our witness votes seems quite extreme.

It surely does.

However can you imagine, that I've seen my own name listed recently on some post on hive? Post pointing out all users who 'shamefully' are apparently supporting "theft and injustice". Why? Turned out that simply because I've been having vote on SteemChiller (guy behind steemworld) and few others, who decided to stay on steemit.

Basically my impression is, that this entire voting system is a joke. Imagine democracy with everyone out ther having an access to see who you voted. And knowing that some people will bully you.

We also need to ask ourselfs a question: why do we vote? I myself don't know the answer any more.

Second, let's hope that having money in a bank is NOT safer than having Steem in our online wallets. With all the recent money-printing, any money we have in a bank could lose its value very quickly.

Indeed. Let's hope.

And if the shit hits the fan, we could be denied access to our bank-held money – with the few clicks of the banker's mouse.

Oh no. It's not just a few clicks. It's much more than that. Luckily for me - I've very little savings and I've morgage (within same bank) so if bank would susspend access to savings, then it's clear to me that my debts are also ... no more.

Take care of yourself, Piotr

Oh, I see your point. Yes, there are many cases where innocent steemers are vilified, scorned, and even attacked. Sometimes quite mercilessly.

That's definitely not good for the platform, and we should not allow or condone it.

The situation is really unfavorable, however, it is in our hands to continue with the work and believing that we can have an environment where we just want to help as many people as possible to grow in the ecosystem, continue to share valuable content in the chain that helps the growth and adoption of the whole industry in general.

For years since 2017 when I first met Steem and its chain of blocks, I have never seen it as a way to get rich, but it has been my strongest support to solve the situation that is happening in my country today. But don't get me wrong, I love to share my content with the community, the little knowledge I can transmit to them and that can also make me grow personally.

I will not give more details of my position on this situation, I will only say one thing, the essence of the blockchain is to be decentralized and as we are part of the governance according to the DPos, we must promote this essence and this concept above all, let's continue with the good work in PH, let's not give up, I will follow your advice to withdraw my witness votes is the best, while the tide goes out.

@lenonmc21

 5 years ago 

Dear @lenonmc21

Thanks for dropping by and your supportive and encouraging comment :)

Stay safe,
Yours, Piotr

My personal trust towards DPOS blockchains has been greatly damaged.

I don't blame DPOS at all. It's because Justin bought almost 30% of the stake over the counter at a cheaper rate. Had he bought similar amount on exchanges, it would have cost him billions.

I don't know what is wrong with Justin but he should be in jail for his actions regarding HF23. He seems very motivated in making our investments worth pennies. I have dedicated 3 years of my life with a hope that steem will reach previous all time highs again but you see, binance is already delisting two steem pairs after two months and the rest will follow.

I don't hold any love for hive witnesses either. Maybe, I did in the past but some recent activities by them forced me to unvote almost all the top witnesses.

Trust me, right now I don't have any hope that either steem or hive is going to make me rich someday, I am just posting as it is something that I like.

Twists and turns in lifethere certainly is, do not give up with just one reason.
Revive, Revive, and stay excited friend. :)

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 5 years ago 

Delete my witness votes?

You know what I call that: self-censorship. It is very common in my country where there is a dictatorial regime.

But as you say, it's a way to keep yourself safe.

Although I have a doubt. In the blockchain there is always a trace of all the transactions, so if we withdraw the votes from all the witnesses, it will always be known who I voted for in the past.

Really, if the hangman wants to drop his guillotine, nothing will stop him.

 5 years ago 

Dear @juanmolina

Delete my witness votes?
You know what I call that: self-censorship

And what's wrong with it? Would you not self-censorship yourself knowing that your votes (during election) are public and even your neighbour, police officer from next block or some thugs who are against your candidate would know who you supported with your vote?

Witness votes should not be public.

Yours, Piotr

 5 years ago 

Witness votes should not be public.

Maybe you're right.
What makes me hesitate to erase my votes to please certain possible executioners is the fact that they will be able to know who I voted for in the past.
And if their intentions are revenge, they will still find a reason to act.

everyone should be very careful with whatever we write in our comments regarding this issue.

Most times i want to act like i didn't see any of this but sometimes i just feel i should say something but how would you say something when there is a cannon on your head and your only means to stay alive is to be quiet.

MY ADVISE - remove your witness votes

Do our votes really count now? Maybe they do but if we vote, we might just be caught up in crossfire. This is like holding an election and then declaring a full day curfew. We want to vote but we can't vote.

So my final advise is: stay safe, avoid having strong opinion on HF23, stay neutral and as far as possible from this conflict and finally: cancel all your witness votes. On both chains. That may allow you to avoid being targetted and dragged into this conflict.

The truth is voting on hive doesn't really have anything to do with steemit witnesses but voting on steem can cause a lot of problem for the user on hive.

Both platforms are like some kind of Kingdoms where the kings are in conflict and the people, the cheap labor, the ones who write, can be sacrificed in order to keep themselves safe.
You might think that for both components (leaders) of both chains, they are in search of each chain on its own to be a winner, however, the conflicts between one and the other take a long time, it hurts most of the people at the bottom.
Everyone should forget about each other and focus on work, which is what most content creators expect.
I am very clear that we content creators are not the ones who give the highest value to the chain, but other things, the possibilities that this chain gives to investors to make more money... they should focus on that... both sides.

Me, I'll keep writing, it's something I like to do. At least as long as I can, as long as I don't put my peace of mind at risk. Because the same way I went in, I can come out. I guess at least that won't limit it. Or prevent me from withdrawing my little capital if I wish to do so. I hope so.

Thank you @crypto.piotr for sharing your opinion.
Nice start to the week.

 5 years ago 

thanks @josevas217 for your amazing comment

 5 years ago 

Again, history repeats itself, my good friend @crypto.piotr,
All small fish are at the center of a battle, where we all lose if we do not know how to act, with great caution and taking firm steps for everything we do.

Now I understand all your points of view regarding what is happening today on these two platforms (Hive and Steem) where we are all somehow confused with what happens between the greats, and it is precisely because of this sentence:

We've already experienced some restrictions coming from both sides.

That situation for no one is good, so I'm going to follow your advice, I'm going to keep myself safe. and I will also be far from the conflict.

You have to stay out of everything. I have always done so, unfortunately, whatever they say about freedom from blockchain technology, we are repressed by those who have more money anyway, just as in real life. My opinions have always had a filter and since I received my first flag (for no reason) a long time ago I have been walking very carefully over eggs trying not to break them.

If someone wanted to know what the blockchain was a few days ago, they must have run away scared when they saw a "Dig black Bick" commenting on their posts.

They forgot that there were children using this platform to publish their children's content. It's a shame.

Well...

Everything kind of comes together, doesn't it? Is it the end of the forking world?

Hi Piotr:

As you know, I only live from my content on steemit, for that this situation has kept me in tension longer than I would have liked.

So my final advise is: stay safe, avoid having strong opinion on HF23, stay neutral and as far as possible from this conflict and finally: cancel all your witness votes. On both chains. That may allow you to avoid being targetted and dragged into this conflict.

Thank you very much for this advice, I immediately proceed to follow it, since I have enough business to attend to in my life for these dramas take up more space in my affairs than necessary.

Despite everything I am still optimistic, and I know that all these conflicts will lead us be stronger and we are probably people with a lot of influence on both blockchain They will use us as a reference when doing business and motivating.

Thank you very much for your concern and contributions, they are very valuable and you are someone who really cares about the community and by steemit.

 5 years ago 

Dear @reinaldoverdu

I only live from my content on steemit, for that this situation has kept me in tension longer than I would have liked.

It surely must be very stressful.

Appreciate your comment and always being so supportive and encouraging.

Thank you very much for your concern and contributions, they are very valuable and you are someone who really cares about the community and by steemit.

Indeed. I really do.

Stay safe,
Cheers, Piotr

The seizing of erstwhile Steem witness account is nothing short of tyranny and Hitlerism. I am stunned, to say the least, by the unholy fork. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

The man dies in all who keep silent in the face of tyranny

  • Wole Soyinka
 5 years ago 

erstwhile ?

what do you mean buddy?

I mean former Steem witnesses now on Hive.

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