RE: COVID-19: Liberty vs. Safety and Security
Up well before š (here) @futuremind, I appreciate you providing your perspective. You have very succinctly said a lot ...
"I don't think I need to extrapolate much more. I think you're quite perceptive, so you know my position with the provided information."
... so I will return the compliment and say you are perceptive as well, to close with this ...
"Thank you for questioning the official narrative in the most unbiased way you were able to muster."
Yes, I have intentionally tried to challenge the "official narrative" we are being given. Asking lots of questions which I do not hear being asked āout thereā all around me ā¦ While not deluding myself that what I think really means much, since obviously we are well down the road already toward whatever the ātrue narrativeā intends ā¦
I appreciate the reference to Hegel. While a long way āback in the rearview mirror,ā I have read about this manās philosophy. And that authorās (canāt bring to mind the title of the book ā¦) opinion that Hegelās malign influence on the 20th century cannot be calculated. Based on the authorās perception his intellectual arguments were foundational to so many others, e.g. Marxism ā¦
So thank you for the link you have provided, for those who wish to educate themselves on what it represents ā¦ In similar fashion, it is the basis in this post, of my saying we are being presented a solution based on a āfalse premiseā ā¦
Not sure how you found this post, but I thank you for investing your time in adding value to it!
Hi there @roleerob,
Thank you kindly for the thorough reply!
Same! I've been going about it in the most simplistic way I can think of. I will take a person in my back yard, ask them what they see, feel, hear, with their own senses, and then I will invoke the topic of blindly trusting information brought by way of television/internet/etc.. Which I also remind myself, as you said "While not deluding myself that what I think really means much, since obviously we are well down the road already toward whatever the ātrue narrativeā intends ā¦"
I know in about 3 seconds if it "clicks" with a person. I don't push it.
My pleasure. I only recently discovered this, about 1 year ago, and still need to read more about Hegel. It was a real eye opener however, an "aha" moment for me. The mechanism is so very simple, and yet staggeringly effective, because it plays on some of our most primitive instincts, and exploits them. "In similar fashion, it is the basis in this post, of my saying we are being presented a solution based on a āfalse premiseā Indeed, challenging a logical fallacy, the tough part is convincing people that money/status/labels do nothing to determine the morality of those who have the power to abuse their position.
It came recommended by way of one of our friends in the comments here :)
I'm now following you, thank you again for your great reply,
"Back in" for a bit @futuremind, thank you for this reply. I certainly enjoyed reading it!
As an American, I was raised to believe "we the people" were the source of the power from which the State derives its authority to rule over us. We do not exist to serve the State. The State exists to serve us. Sadly, due to a steady decline (long, long arguments to be made here ...), far too many of my countrymen have lost the will to hold our governing officials accountable.
In even attempting it, how challenging is it to know what to believe? In my very simplistic understanding of the Hegelian Dialectic, essentially our "adversaries" control both sides of the "public" debate, successfully getting us to "take the bait" in reaction to what is only an "illusion" ...
No surprise then, a deeply entrenched "ruling class" now has our fate in its hands ...
P.S. I am a part-time engager on these blockchains, so patience at times is needed, if waiting for a response ... š
I'm also an American, in NY, and a Marine Corps veteran. Although in this point in my life, being fortunate (or cursed?) enough to understand some truth(s), I certainly would never join a military branch again.
I've been reviewing the constitution, as well as history. As I see it, it's the only avenue we have to combat the illogical things happening. I am in utter shock at how so many, including law enforcement are blatantly dismissing the constitution. It really puts into perspective the layers involved in this brainwash.
Exactly! If the end goal is the same,(which of course it is, that's the whole point.) and you give the oppressed the illusion of choice, then they will be much more complicit in their own demise.
I would agree, it's no surprise at all. The biggest surprise to me is how easily people are deceived. (collectively)
No worries at all! I'm online quite a bit, but I also take a while to respond sometimes, due to the fact that I am usually researching, studying different things. Right now of course I have been deep diving pretty hard, so I just pop onto Steem a couple of times a day, and some messages just have to wait :)
I'm very grateful to know you, thank you for the great communication with me!