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RE: Contest | 25-Word-Comment - Monkey Business | Upvote - 6 Steem

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Saya baru tau jika memberi up vote pada umur postingan 6 hari akan mendapatkan hasil yang berbeda. Hal itu jawaban dari pertanyaan saya mengapa ada hasil yang lebih tinggi dari penghasilan kurasi yang saya peroleh jika saya melakukan up vote pada postingan enam hari.

Selama ini yang saya amati, jika up vote pada postingan yang tinggi nilainya maka akan mendapatkan imbalan yang tinggi juga. Namun itu tidak selalu sama karena banyak yang melakukan up vote pada postingan tersebut.

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It's 6 days because after 7 days there is not anymore the possibility to vote. It's because the payout comes within a week since publishing. I'm not aware about the different weight of the vote as time passes by, but I'm seeing now how timing influences voting in the comment our friend @mikitaly posted.

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Singkatnya, menurut saya beginilah cara kerjanya: jika Anda memberi suara positif sebagai salah satu orang pertama sekitar menit ke-3-4, Anda menerima hadiah kurasi tertinggi. Hal yang sama berlaku untuk memberi suara positif pada periode sebelumnya 1-2 hari.

Jika Anda memberi suara positif sekitar hari ke-4-5, Anda dapat melihat setelah memberi suara positif bahwa penghasilan orang yang Anda beri suara positif turun (tergantung pada tingginya suara positif Anda). Apa artinya saya tidak tahu, mungkin Anda menerima sebagian?

Jika Anda memberi suara positif pada postingan yang berusia 6 hari, suara Anda akan lebih tinggi, tetapi tingginya juga tergantung pada postingan yang Anda beri suara positif. Jadi, semakin besar dompet orang yang Anda beri suara positif, semakin tinggi pula suara positif Anda (yang selalu bagus jika setidaknya 0, begitulah yang saya rasakan, jadi ya, ada banyak orang yang saya beri suara positif pada hari ke-6 hanya untuk memberi mereka tambahan -0,01 sen. Saya rasa itu tidak akan menguntungkan saya, tetapi menguntungkan bagi penerima).

Barangkali @mikitaly tahu mengapa meng-upvote sesuatu yang besar membuat penghasilannya turun?


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In short, I think this is how it works: if you upvote as one of the first around the 3-4th minute you receive the highest curation reward. It is the same for upvoting in an earlier period 1-2 days.

If you upvote around day 4-5 you can see after you upvote that the earnings of the one you upvoted drop (it depends on the height of your upvote) what it means I don't know perhaps you receive a part?

If you upvote on a 6-day-old post your vote will be higher but also the height depends on the one you upvote. So indeed the bigger the wallet of the one you upvote the higher your upvote will be (which is always good if it's 0 at least that's how it feels to me so yes, there are many I upvote on the 6th day just to give them that -0.01 cent extra. I don't think that will benefit me but it does to the receiver).



Perhaps @mikitaly knows why upvoting a big one makes their earnings go down?

Voting window in Steem Blockchain

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You can find the chart in @kuoba01's post: Understanding How Curation Works In Steem Blockchain

The post explains how the curation and voting system works on Steemit and the concept of the 'voting window', i.e. the ideal time to vote, and how timing can influence the rewards received.

Have a look at it, I hope it helps.😉

It helps me although, I notice some things I can't explain yet.

What happens if I vote and see the earnings go ⬇️

Unfortunately, some points are a bit incomprehensible even for me.🥴
I can't answer whether voting decreases gains.
But if you take that table into account, you can vote at the right time and perhaps not lose earnings.

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It's not my earnings that get lost but the one I vote on. I wonder why. At times I think that if I vote the upvote given by a bot or SC becomes less...

I delved into the topic of Reverse Auction. A little revision every now and then is good. When you've been on Steemit for so long you go into automatic and take everything for granted. I hope I can answer your question.

The Reverse Auction is a Steemit mechanism that, upon the publication of a post, starts a 7-day timer during which the rewards for content curation decrease progressively.

To maximize rewards, you should vote on posts that have been published for more than 5 minutes but less than 6 days and 12 hours.

At exactly 7 days, the post can no longer receive votes.

When you vote on a post that is already older than 6 days and 12 hours, the reward from the vote starts to decrease linearly.
This reduction affects both your curation rewards and those of the post's author.

This means that the effectiveness of your vote (in terms of rewards) decreases as you get closer to the 7-day limit.

Steemit's goal is to promote engagement with new content to keep the platform active and current.

Therefore, after 6 days and 12 hours, rewards start to decrease for both curators and the author.
This is because Steemit aims to discourage voting on posts that are already popular, thereby keeping the focus on fresh content.

To prevent superficial or automated voting and to promote quality, the system does not grant curation rewards within the first 5 minutes of a post's publication.

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It is not my vote that is less but the earnings of those I vote on drop! Especially, if it comes to authors with a higher earning.
I notice this frequently happens if I vote on day 3-5. Coincedence?

I noticed that if I vote on a post on day 6 the vote is higher! If I do so on day 7 and the payout isn't reached the vote is still added!
Does this only happen if you are a small fish? Is the system wrong?

The automatic voting system always contained a time you can set when to vote! So4 or 5 minutes is possible.
I noticed in fanbases all big fish set up their own fanbase trail or xpilar did. I find it hard to believe they do not earn.
I also noticed in the new fanbases (botsteem) there's no possibility to set a time when to vote. The former one had it.
I can't find any rules either.

On a theoretical level, the things I explained to you apply.

Then if you noticed inconsistencies, you could turn to the Steemit team or the community Steemit Crypto Academy who deal with these very issues.

Voting depends on many factors, the percentage of VP available, how many votes the post has already received, how many votes from users with high SP, the precise moment you are in the Reverse Auction system.

The rewards start to decrease from day 6 and a half, so day 6 is like any other day.
The fact that you noticed that a decrease also happens on the 3rd or 5th day I cannot explain.

I don't think that the system is wrong but that there are many things that have to coincide with each other. It's all mathematics. It's blockchain.

It's clear that a small fish has very little voting power and it doesn't affect much when it curates, but you know that if a lot of small fish vote together the votes accumulate and the reward is more significant.

In my opinion, you have to ask the developers these questions. Maybe they will be able to give you more details.

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Inilah manfaat saling membalas komentar, ada pengetahuan baru di sana, semoga steemian yang lain bisa membaca ini.

Siapa pun yang ingin dapat membacanya dan menerjemahkannya.

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I just upvoted 6 day old posts. My SP is low right now but my 0.01 changed into 0.02. It proifs it's true.
No idea what it would have been with 100 SP but can't wait since my time is limited.


Saya baru saja melakukan upvote pada postingan yang berumur 6 hari. SP saya rendah saat ini tetapi 0,01 saya berubah menjadi 0,02. Ini membuktikan bahwa itu benar.
Tidak tahu apa yang akan terjadi dengan 100 SP tetapi tidak bisa menunggu karena waktu saya terbatas.

@bahrol

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