Five LLMs analyze news events
It's interesting to see how some of the different LLMs handle current news events when they all receive the same prompt.
In an HTML table. Compare and contrast the cases of Bernie Goetz and Daniel Penny. |
Penny was found not guilty by the jury earlier today, but it seems that none of the LLMs know about that update yet. I give the win to Grok. Here's my overall ranking:
- Grok
- ChatGPT
- Gemini
- Brave -> Claude
- Brave -> Llama
To be fair, Grok is the only one where I have a subscription, so maybe it's not fair to compare a paid version against four free versions. ChatGPT vs. Gemini was nearly a toss-up. Both of the Brave options made basic factual errors. (Claude got the year wrong, and Llama missed Goetz' conviction on a firearm charge.)
Also, I think Brave Llama hallucinated part of its answer. Finally, I asked for HTML, but both of the Brave versions gave me markdown.
Brave Leo -> Claude Haiku
Criteria | Bernie Goetz | Daniel Penny |
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Incident | In 1984, Goetz shot and wounded four young Black men on a New York City subway, claiming they were attempting to rob him. | In 2022, Penny restrained Jordan Neely, a homeless Black man, on a New York City subway, leading to Neely's death. |
Charges | Goetz was initially charged with attempted murder, assault, and criminal possession of a weapon. He was later acquitted of all charges except for carrying an unlicensed firearm. | Penny was charged with manslaughter in the second degree, criminally negligent homicide, and assault in the second degree. |
Public Perception | Goetz's actions were seen by some as a justified response to a perceived threat, while others viewed it as a racially motivated shooting. The case sparked debates about self-defense and gun rights. | Penny's actions were criticized as an unnecessary use of force against a vulnerable individual. The case raised concerns about the treatment of homeless and mentally ill individuals. |
Outcomes | Goetz served 8 months in jail for the weapons charge. He was later sued in civil court and ordered to pay $43 million in damages, though he never paid the full amount. | Penny's case is still ongoing, with the legal proceedings and public discourse continuing to unfold. |
Brave Leo -> Llama
Aspect | Bernie Goetz (1984) | Daniel Penny (2023) |
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Incident | Goetz shot four black teenagers who were allegedly harassing him on a New York City subway train. | Penny fatally punched ( <-- hallucination? ) a black man, Jordan Neely, on a New York City subway platform after Neely allegedly began harassing him. |
Self-Defense Claim | Goetz claimed he shot the teenagers in self-defense, but his trial revealed that he had a history of mental health issues and had been stalking the teenagers. ( <-- hallucination? ) | Penny claimed he acted in self-defense, but witnesses and video footage suggested that Neely was not a threat. ( <-- hallucination? ) |
Investigation and Charges | Goetz was acquitted of all charges due to a lack of evidence and concerns about racial bias in the prosecution. | Penny was initially charged with manslaughter, but the charges were later downgraded to a misdemeanor after a grand jury declined to indict him ( <-- hallucination? ). |
Public Reaction | The Goetz case sparked widespread outrage and debate about racial bias in the justice system. | The Penny case has also raised concerns about racial bias and the use of force in self-defense situations. |
Grok
Aspect | Bernie Goetz | Daniel Penny |
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Date of Incident | December 22, 1984 | May 1, 2023 |
Location | NYC Subway (IRT Express, downtown No. 2 train) | NYC Subway (uptown F train) |
Action Taken | Goetz shot four young Black men with a .38 caliber handgun. | Penny applied a chokehold to Jordan Neely, leading to Neely's death. |
Reason for Action | Goetz claimed self-defense, believing the youths intended to rob him. | Penny claimed he was protecting other passengers from Neely's erratic behavior. |
Victim(s) | Four Black teenagers (Troy Canty, Barry Allen, James Ramseur, Darrell Cabey) | Jordan Neely, a Black homeless man known for performing as a Michael Jackson impersonator. |
Outcome of Incident | All four youths survived, but Darrell Cabey was left paralyzed and brain-damaged. | Jordan Neely died as a result of the chokehold. |
Legal Charges | Charged with attempted murder, assault, reckless endangerment, and weapons possession. Convicted only of carrying an unlicensed firearm. | Charged with second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide. |
Public Reaction | Divided; some hailed Goetz as a vigilante hero, others criticized him for racial motivations. | Also divided; some considered Penny a hero for intervening, while others saw it as an overreach. |
Legal Outcome | Acquitted of attempted murder, served eight months for the weapons charge. | Trial ongoing as of December 2024, with closing arguments having begun. |
Civil Lawsuits | Darrell Cabey won a $43 million civil judgment against Goetz in 1996. | No information on civil lawsuits at this stage, as the criminal trial is still underway. |
Context of Time | 1980s NYC with high crime rates, fear of subway crime. | Recent NYC with ongoing debates about subway safety and mental health issues. |
Racial Dynamics | Racial tension highlighted due to Goetz being white and the victims Black; accusations of racism. | Similar racial dynamics; Penny is white, Neely was Black, raising issues of race in public perception and legal proceedings. |
Google Gemini
Feature | Bernie Goetz (1984) | Daniel Penny (2023) |
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Victim | Four young Black men | Jordan Neely, a homeless Black man |
Perpetrator's Action | Shot four individuals on a subway train | Placed a chokehold on an individual on a subway train |
Perpetrator's Justification | Claimed self-defense against an attempted robbery | Claimed self-defense and defense of others from a perceived threat |
Legal Outcome | Convicted of illegal weapons possession, acquitted of assault charges | Charged with manslaughter |
Public Perception | Initially seen as a vigilante hero by some, later viewed more critically | Generated significant controversy and debate about self-defense, mental health, and racial bias |
Key Differences | Involved a firearm, multiple victims, and racial tensions | Involved a chokehold, a single victim, and broader societal issues |
ChatGPT
Comparison: Bernie Goetz and Daniel PennyAspect | Bernie Goetz | Daniel Penny |
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Date of Incident | December 22, 1984 | May 1, 2023 |
Location | New York City Subway | New York City Subway |
Key Participants | Bernie Goetz (shooter) and four Black teenagers | Daniel Penny (Marine veteran) and Jordan Neely |
Actions Taken | Goetz shot four teenagers who allegedly attempted to rob him. | Penny placed Neely in a chokehold after Neely was acting erratically and allegedly threatening passengers. |
Motivation | Claimed self-defense against a perceived robbery attempt. | Claimed self-defense and defense of others against a perceived threat. |
Outcome of Actions | The four teenagers were injured, one paralyzed. | Jordan Neely died as a result of the chokehold. |
Legal Charges | Charged with attempted murder and assault; convicted of illegal gun possession. | Charged with second-degree manslaughter. |
Public Reaction | Goetz was seen as both a vigilante hero and as someone who acted with racial bias. | Penny's actions sparked debates over self-defense, mental health, and racial bias. |
Broader Implications | The case highlighted concerns about crime in New York City and vigilantism. | The case reignited debates about mental health care, homelessness, and public safety. |
ChatGPT and Gemini fought bravely, but who knew LLMs could turn the subway into a battleground for AI accuracy? Humanity debates self-defense while AI debates…formatting.
Yeah. And they don't really solve programming/software development issues but they present fixes that make one think.