RE: Steem Debates #1 : The Club System
Having read all of the other comments, there's probably very little that I can say which will be new but there's no harm in trying to add something different.
When the concept of clubs began , some of us found the idea unnecessary and as a good friend of mine said at the time:
I have been on Steemit for almost four years and have never sold a single STEEM. All my liquid STEEM and SBD end up in the PowerUp. Because I believe in the Steem, because I believe in the concept of the Steem. And it's not only my STEEM (earned and invested) that I put into the development of Steemit, but also a lot of time and energy.
...and the bit that still doesn't sit well with me:
What I don't do, however, is to hang my PowerUps on the big bell, to present how "great" I am and to collect money for it.
It was this perception that the tag would be used as another means of "extracting votes from steemcurator" that will have attracted criticism to the concept of clubs. Of course, the idea makes sense - those people who power up more than they withdraw are demonstrating a commitment to the platform but the use of the tag can definitely be perceived as "ringing that bell".
#club5050 is now the 2nd most used tag, behind #steemexclusive. #burnsteem25 and #steemit complete 4 of the top 5 (with #thediarygame completing the set in 4th place). When we have 7 tags available to us (the 8th being a community), we're wasting precious tags that could be used to help people find our content on tags that are unnecessary (because the curators check their status anyway). When I see a post with the following tags:
I see a post that might as well have used no tags at all.
Having started with the more negative part... in my opinion, the clubs are working and achieving the job that was intended. As stated repeatedly when launched, being in a club doesn't guarantee a vote and of all of the initiatives that the Steemit Team has devised and supported (engagement challenges, country reps, booming, etc.), this is the most immune from abuse.
The club5050 appears to be the one which sees the most consistency in user behaviour.
Does the idea of clubs deter good authors from posting on Steemit? Perhaps knowing that they won't get voted by the platform's biggest manual curator is a deterrent but in theory, in the long term, the increased number of orcas and multi-dolphins should counteract the need for a single vote from a big account. My most recent post is perhaps a good example of this in action and what will hopefully become "the norm." for more authors at some point in the future.
That'll do. I've overthought and underwritten as usual.
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Users be like 🙄
i love steem ..but why won't the price go up?🤷🏾♂️
If we looked at which users sell the most Steem while getting the most support ...i think we would see club5050 users at the top of that list.
Meanwhile people in club100 get minimal support which is retarded.
In defence of them though, it probably pales into insignificance compared to the outgoings by bidbot users.
The club100 vs. club5050 one is interesting (genuinely). Club5050 seems to be more sustainable but for whatever reason, people decide "I'm in club-x" and then decide that's their bed. Rather than just do what they do, power up and withdraw what they feel comfortable with and just get on with it.
With a few exceptions, I don't trust a lot of the club100. The ones who have never made a withdrawal so you don't know which scammy account it's going to. Very suspicious, sir.
Forgot about them in my 2 bourbon rant last night....
Hope all is good with you my bro
2 bottles of bourbon?
Yeah, all good here. I'm away for the week with my family so taken all my problems with me and crammed them into a smaller space 😅
Are you ready for your next adventure? All that peace and quiet must be nice 😴
2 standard drinks LOL, i would be in he gutter after half a bottle.
Yep ready for next adventure never been to Melbourne so a new place, Melbourne has more or less the same population as all of New Zealand.
the-mrs-gorilla has travelled there before and it's often the place people like the most so hopefully you'll find it really good too. I look forward to reading about it 🙂
That's why I said that the #club5050 should be three months, so that the newcomer demonstrates their commitment to the platform... the #club75 two months and the #club100 one month. It is a much more feasible and realistic proposal.
I think that makes sense if #club100 means that you're in #club75 which means that you're in #club5050.
If we're only looking at 1 month and saying "(s)he's #club100 because (s)he hasn't made a withdrawal" having just completed a full powerdown, it wouldn't make sense.
But as others have said, there's probably not a lot of benefit by having the additional club75 or club100. club200's a different story (although could be abused too).
I totally agree...however, beyond maintaining only the #club5050, which seems like a good idea and a fair way to withdraw part of my profits with the same enthusiasm that increases my voting power, it is vital to present all this like, at the end of the day, a "reinvestment" of your own assets within the platform. If the user understands the potential long-term profit, they will not hesitate to make it grow as fast as they can.
I honestly think that very few understand the compounding growth potential until they've done it.
Certainly, I was one of them, as was friend @irawandedy. I joined Steemi in 2017 but did not at all understand investing in my voting power as a long-term asset. Like him, I stopped halfway when I already had more than 50k SP... today, that I can understand it, I feel the need to communicate it to others so that they don't waste time. Especially the newcomers.
Agree about the tags - and the bell ringing !
I particularly can not appreciate why people like to make posts about their power ups - unless they are super large (5 figures at least😀).
Definitely...