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RE: Voter Finds Out Buttigieg Gay, Wants to Cancel Vote

in Threespeak6 years ago

Yes I can believe it. I can believe she doesn't know he was gay with all the national attention given to Biden,Bernie, Warren, Beto and Kamala over the last several months essentially burying Buttigieg under the pile. A lot of people aren't that focused on politics much passed whose on top, it's more likely given the local of Iowa to Minnesota she got more news about Amy than Pete. Appears she was more concerned about voting for a candidate who wasn't progressive or on the social justice bandwagon and she'd obviously already ruled Biden out. Do I think she should have had concerns when it came to him being gay? I would. Not because it's a sin in the bible like it was to her but because a gay president can push forth policies inside the department of education that would require teaching kids in the early elementary grade levels about different sexual identities. There would be no way in the world I would have had liked anybody teaching my kid(s) and/or now grand kids that's it's perfectly okay if you don't want to be a boy or girl or you can marry the same sex when you grow up. Children really can't comprehend these issues nor do they normally have any inclination to. They can be unduly influenced and confused about all the factors and circumstances involved, especially if reinforced than later end up that they just thought it was a neat idea to pretend but not actually be. Things like this should be more confined when kids start to wonder about sexuality, which is in the later grades, more like towards the junior high years. Basically these decisions being made by some schools to incorporate this into early learning coupled with the bathroom debate is what has helped Trump get elected. Giving control to what some people think is right and taking away that control from parents is a highly flammable issue. People have kids to nurtured them the way they chose. It's a natural instinct to want to nurture your children the way you want to, it doesn't matter if that comes with instilling good eating habits, right from wrong, or even it's okay to want to be the opposite sex but it's the parent not the schools or state, federal policies choosing, when it comes to children these are personal issues that belong within the boundaries of each individual family. Personally I wouldn't trust a gay president to protect my right as a parent in that regard. I don't care that he's gay, I don't care if he's married, I don't care if he gets divorced and remarried half a dozen times but I do care if he'd push policies that deny parents the right to chose the boundaries of what children learn regarding their sexuality.

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Personally I wouldn't trust a gay president to protect my right as a parent in that regard.

you're a fucking freak, you know that? You do not have a "right" to brainwash your child into hating people that are different than them. Christ.

Only freaks in this world are the one's freaking out because they have no reading comprehension skills, take something somebody said, wrap it all up in a ball and determine they are haters, racist or any other unpleasant descriptive's they love to apply to those with an opposing opinion.

You do not have a "right" to brainwash your child into hating people that are different than them

Show me where I ever said I hate gay people. I never said that. Nor do I. I said that it should be left up to parents to determine what they want to teach their young children when it comes to sexuality. At some point in a child's life it's going to come up eventually, that tends to be closer to sixth, seventh, eight grade levels, I have no problem with that and I feel that's an appropriate age to bring the discussion forward. I know there's a lot of parents who'd disagree with me on that even. Myself personally I feel this is about the age that kids begin to question sexuality, up to and including their own identities if it conflicts with what is consider the norm. Those kids more so than others need guidance, especially if they feel they can't talk to their parents about it. Most schools have guidance counselors in place and it would be the best place for them to seek out answers and support about their feelings. Under those grade levels I think children should be left alone when it comes to sexuality. It's a time when kids go through a lot of development, bringing up sexuality may cause confusion to a girl who like to play with boys toys or dress up like cowboys when in fact it just could be she has brothers, same with boys, they may like to play with dolls because they have sisters. Or it could be they have multiple brothers and sisters but are closer to one then the others therefore they engage more in each other's like's of play. Someone comes along and starts talking about it's okay to be a girl if your a boy or your a boy and it's to be a girl, or it's okay to like the same sex....it pushes thoughts they'd never had, it could cause them to start wondering if that's why they play with certain toys when in fact if they'd been left alone it was just something meaningless in regards to sexuality. There's really no reason to bring up issues of sexuality until kids start becoming aware of what sexuality is. It's really that simple, why bring up stuff kids aren't even concerned about....they are busy being kids. Personally it is YOU who have it wrong trying to tell any parent what "RIGHTS" they have when it comes to THEIR OWN children. Those children are NOT YOURS, you raise your kids the way you want to and let them raise their kids the way they want to. That is what makes this the greatest country on earth, everybody gets a right to determine their own path and what influences those paths. Up to and including deciding some day that you like the opposite sex, want to be an opposite sex other then what your are born with but until those discoveries spring forth you have no right to influence/confuse/push those thoughts into other parents young children's minds.

Pretending educating children on things existing is "forcing" or "brainwashing" is called hatred, by another name.

When I was 9 years old, I knew people who had black skin, that didn't "force" me to treat them differently, it normalized them to me.

When I was 5 years old, I met someone with green eyes. Did it make me hate them? Nope! It made them seem normal!

Same with gay people. Get over your bigotry.

"Pretending educating children on things existing is "forcing" or "brainwashing" is called hatred, by another name."

Whose pretending? You brought it up, must be you whose pretending that you have some misconceived right to determine how other people want to raise their young children because you definitely don't have a (and I general don't go there but I will on occasion make a exception) fucking right in this world to tell any other parent what's is or is not or should be considered normal to them.

When I was young my dad was out greasing the top of the back fence during some riots by some black people I never saw in my life. It scared the hell out of me. About four years later we'd moved and my dad, the sicko he was, prostituted my mom out. A black man ended up becoming my moms boyfriend and it wasn't long after that our house was a house of prostitution. I'd often find myself having to scream in the middle of the night when they'd come in my room looking for my sister whose was only eleven years old and thinking I might be her would try and shake me awake. It scared the hell out of me. Many years later in life the group of friends I had had a black guy in that group. We'd go on to be best buddies in life. I even wrote a story about him on here, Three Trees in a Triangle if you'd like to read it. My best female friend was also black. Both are dead now but my experiences as a young child never led to me having the same prejudices many people have, so much so that even after my sister was murdered I practically helped raise her two daughters, back then it still wasn't as socially acceptable as it is today but that was other people's problem not mine.

The moral of the story is you don't always know what you think you know it just what you assume is going to happen.

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