RE: Summary of the Evidence That Jesus Was a Vegetarian Who Opposed Animal Sacrifice (Part 5, Conclusion)
So you disagree with the nonviolent diet prescribed by the creator in the beginning?
I respectfully disagree with your opinion that Jesus and disciples ate fish, as early church historians record all 12 apostles and James the brother of Jesus were vegetarians.
Do you believe Jesus wants us killing fellow innocent creatures of God then?
I’m not disputing that Jesus came to fulfill the law, however ‘eye for eye’ and ‘keep your oaths’ are straight from Mosaic law as we have it, not rabbinical interpretation, and he explicitly said oaths are from the evil one.
I don’t believe I’m preaching a false gospel, that would be the Catholic Church. In fact I’m not preaching at all, simply sharing information.
Jesus didn’t tell us to wait for kingdom of heaven to come to earth, but to pray for it to come now and make it happen by our actions. That includes not killing animals. As long as men train for war and kill animals, heaven on earth will not be realized.
"So you disagree with the nonviolent diet prescribed by the creator in the beginning?"
It's arguable that man was meant to live off the land in Eden (seeing as there was an abundance of fruit), but now man is fallen. Sacrifices were sanctioned right after the Fall for this very reason.
"I respectfully disagree with your opinion that Jesus and disciples ate fish, as early church historians record all 12 apostles and James the brother of Jesus were vegetarians."
Then you'd have to disagree with the 4 canonical Gospels universally accepted by the early fathers, as in them Jesus and his apostles share fish. The church historians aren't infallible, they're men just like we are and many contracted inaccurate information and traditions. Irenaeus in his "Against Heresies" recounts many of them from an already muddied early Christian perspective.
"I’m not disputing that Jesus came to fulfill the law, however ‘eye for eye’ and ‘keep your oaths’ are straight from Mosaic law as we have it, not rabbinical interpretation, and he explicitly said oaths are from the evil one."
Yes, but so did "love thy neighbour". That's a direct quote of Leviticus 19. Of course, Jesus didn't mean we should not love our neighbour and only wish the best for our enemies, because the entire Sermon of the Mount is about applying the Law not just to its letter, but to its spirit. So when Jesus is talking about "an eye for an eye" he isn't correcting Exodus, just the rabbinical teaching of it, just as he isn't correcting Leviticus when talking about "love thy neighbour". Ditto for oaths, and of course Jesus didn't mean all oaths are bad, considering Hebrews notes Jah's oath himself, and Paul (who you do seem to accept) does swear oaths.
"Do you believe Jesus wants us killing fellow innocent creatures of God then?"
In our fallen state (at least) there's nothing going against killing and eating animals for food, as there is for murdering a man.
"Jesus didn’t tell us to wait for kingdom of heaven to come to earth, but to pray for it to come now and make it happen by our actions. That includes not killing animals. As long as men train for war and kill animals, heaven on earth will not be realized."
That's not exactly true. You see, while a part of our job is to bring heaven to earth, the Kingdom of Heaven won't just be brought into earth by our own actions. It needs to be brought by the Messiah himself, and a massive war needs to make that happen (Battle of Gog and Magog/Armageddon), in-fact God used wars to punish others in the last 2000 years, directly paving the way for heaven on earth. Not until all is fulfilled will swords be turned into plowshares and spears into hooks, and will the wolf and lamb live in peace.