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RE: The Story of Money: The Myth of Barter

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I think this idea of barter is rooted in individualism, and probably made by follower of individualism in post ww2 world.

Can take example of anarchist spain, when people threw gov & banks away, living in community, but it was not based on this principle of individual work worth and market.

In primitive society, community was very important, and the repartirion was really obvious and all production was focused on survival need, food cloth, and tools for hunting , everyone knew they needed each others and everyone needed roughly the same basics things, and communities were fairly small, so thete was not much point in indivual accounting like in modern world.

Everyone needed some foods, cloth and home, and things were built to accomodate everyones need in the community, knowing they all need the work of each other to survive.

In native community, there is lot of care put in development of each member of the community, everyone is a precious gift which skills are needed for the survival and thriving of the community, and the community is the more important.

In this sort of organisation, bartering at individual level doesnt make much sense.

Barter could happen at inter community/tribe level, but it was not like people had bank account so it wzs still organized at community level, see what is over produced and what can it be exchanged for, but i dont think it really happened at individual level.

But now there is much greater diversity of object, which are not surivival needs, and made of hundreds parts, made by diffetent entities, including innovation and soeculative investment at world wide scale, so it need world wide balancing of individual work worth.

But in previous time where all was survival oriented, what everyone need was easy to determine and there was no questioning about it, everyone could easily see what his skill are needed for, and what he needed from others, and what the community needs as a whole, without going through indivual worth on global impersonal market.

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hi h0bby!!! mmhmmmm, yeah! what a good perspective and explanation...

Everyone needed some foods, cloth and home, and things were built to accomodate everyones need in the community, knowing they all need the work of each other to survive.

It's so true, things aren't so simple these days =) I

Barter could happen at inter community/tribe level, but it was not like people had bank account so it wzs still organized at community level, see what is over produced and what can it be exchanged for, but i dont think it really happened at individual level.

That makes some sense to me too, I think it's interesting how many tribal people's see their community as a 'body'...if some part of it is sick, all of it is sick. Very differing mentality then today! But it's a different world. We can't go back...but our global empire of getting more for less seems to be approaching some limits of how far it can stretch.

In native community, there is lot of care put in development of each member of the community, everyone is a precious gift which skills are needed for the survival and thriving of the community, and the community is the more important.

In some ways this seems the exact opposite of much of are current social system, where we want people to be as replaceable as possible.

Thanks for dropping it and commenting, I'm looking forward to getting to know you a bit!

Well i think society of today is vastly dominated by satanist mindset, which tend to revolve around pyramidal organisation, and people are not connected to each other anymore, and see other purely as ressources and object, without valueing too much human potential, and all the person is summarized by how much ressource can be gained from him, as pure materialism / satanism anti humantirian.

This whole system of individualism stem from that, as with centralization, all the focus goes to order givers who are just caring about ressources production, and from there come all the economic model based on individual work instead of focusing on the bigger picture in more decentralized manner, seeing what everyone else need and how to improve life level of the community as a whole.

Now most people barely haveba consciousness of their own, and have weak will power, and see order following as only mean of existence, which prevent true sense of community, and true sense of self in relation to others.

For those at the top of the pyramid things never been so well i bet, all the wealth and power has never been concentrated in so few hands, and the rest of people so weak and confused about everything that can hardly concieve much anything else than following orders and being duped into false identities propagated in large scale, instead of building inner strength and sense of self determination to guide their action and production.

interesting!!! I've never heard of references to pyramidal organisation as related to satanist mindset before..but I can see why one might say that. Our organisation structures are looking a bit depressive =(

well, here's to building inner strength and self determination for the good of all beings!!!

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