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RE: AncientMystique--------->Vaccinations: A TimeLine of Causation and Correlation.

in #health7 years ago (edited)

"he correlation of growth in childhood illness and the growth of the childhood vaccination schedule."

Wouldn't this be an expected, logical response to increasing illness? The production and application of more vaccines?

Correlation does not equal causation.

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If it was vaccine preventable diseases that were rising-It would be obvious...

You can't get vaccinated against heart disease?? You can't get vaccinated against diabetes? You can't vaccinate against eczema?

But each one of these illnesses-which last a lifetime-have been directly linked to being fully vaccinated.

whether you choose to see that or not is a whole other question! :)
When you inject heavy metals etc-the result is damaged kids. Guess what we have??

An army of neurological impaired and sick individuals than will never be apart of a community the way they were supposed to be. That can't even wipe their own butts.

Vaccines cause more harm than good, IMO. especially for my family. <3

I'm not arguing with you. You can understand and expect a healthy degree of skepticism in this area, given that there are many terrible diseases that we have managed to nearly cure or eliminate with vaccines and other medications.

I assume your position is not that 100% of vaccines are bad, but rather there is a problem with over-prescription or a certain percentage (however high that may be) of bad vaccines?

Have you compared the presumed negative effects with the presumed positive effects? Ie. do some vaccines, say, cause autism in say 1 in 1000 or 1 in 10000, but also save 1 in 1000 or 1 in 10000? Is there any data on cost/benefit of increased risks on both sides? These are important, if unsavory, questions. "Lifeboat math" I've heard it called.

PS - There are some obvious causes for some of the things you listed. Diabetes, Heart Disease, and I think even eczema can all be linked to really crappy, fast food diets, which have increased substantially over the time-frame you show as almost everyone but the elite has gotten poorer. Horrible nutrition is a health epidemic now, much worse than in 1980.

Apologies for the delayed reply! :) <3
I think that about 1/4 of the medical interventions offered, are actually NEEDED. And something to be very thankful for when you need them. However the fact the we, as a mass, rely on quick fixes for most things, and our health is no different, isn't working at all-For any of us on this Earth.

Tell me, How does it make sense to inject a newborn baby with a hepatitis B vaccine, when the mother and immediate family aren't HepB antigen positive?
And in fact, throughout my research I have only found that

  • simple and complex sanitation methods
  • refrigeration and storage of food
  • Plumbing--->Honey buckets were not a nice thing and caused a lot of the diseases and illness we still vaccinate against today....
  • using cars instead of horses (poo everywhere)
    has helped eliminate the diseases we vaccinate against still. And most of the diseases like tetanus (We come in contact with tetanus every single day with no issues.... you don't actually contract from rust...and only can contract it if the puncture wound that is caused by something that has been in contact with barn animal faeces and then not been cleaned thoroughly)
    Whooping Cough/Pertussis?? is a nasty, nasty illness. But it is an infection. And if my 2 days old baby got whooping cough-god forbid-i would trust myself and my knowledge enough to stay at home without doctors and treat successfully.
    Chickenpox or measles? Ha! Those are simple childhood diseases , that when treated properly, are minor in most cases and I prefer to take my chances with them than the vaccines and they're side effects....

As for the the P.S comment...I specifically explained the childhood diabetes rates I chose....It takes Years and years of abuse through diet to destroy a pancreas and create an environment for diabetes...And create autoimmune disorders like eczema....We have been eating this crap for generations...Yet the rate wasn't there to begin with....It has grown throughout generations exponentially....I totally agree with the malnutrition being an epidemic...I really couldn't agree more....However, with diet etc, people are really starting to change those things....I see it every single day....And those who do benefit greatly from consuming good, whole foods and appropriate supplements...
<3

In my opinion-Vaccines as a whole are ineffective and unsafe. However-That is MY opinion, and mine alone. My real stance, is freedom of choice without persecution. Especially when that persecution has spineless, tobacco-like science behind it.....

I really appreciate asking the questions from both sides though-And that is why I think that informed choice is so important. I truly think that if every single person was required to do research themselves-deeply-into this subject....Everyone would have the same conclusion...There are better ways to incite immunity rather than to inject it....

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