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RE: "Spiritual Drugs" Are Bullshit
These are all studies/statements about magic mushrooms which contain the active substance of psilocybin. I didn't mention them in the article. Completely different from the "spiritual" ones related to LSD and Ayahuasca.
Also many similar studies have also reports of anxiety and panic attacks after taking the drug. In other words, much like modern depressants.
There are plenty of studies that suggest the positive benefits of LSD as well.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/05/psychedelic-drugs-like-lsd-could-be-used-to-treat-depression-study-suggests
Psychedelic drugs could prove to be highly effective treatments for depression and alcoholism, according to scientists who have obtained the first brain scans of people under the influence of LSD.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/04/01/lsd-could-make-you-smarter-happier-and-healthier-should-we-all-try-it/?utm_term=.29cf2ef0e7e3
But over the past decade, some scientists have begun to challenge that conclusion. Far from being harmful, they found, hallucinogens can help sick people: They helped alcoholics drink less; terminal patients eased more gently into death. And it’s not just the infirm who are helped by the drugs. Psychedelics can make the healthy healthier, too.
https://www.livescience.com/43894-acid-lsd-therapeutic-value-benefits.html
The LSD experiment is part of a growing trend toward taking certain drugs — long dismissed as "recreational" — more seriously for their therapeutic value. Despite a plethora of federal and state prohibitions against drug-related testing and research, investigators are discovering that many so-called party drugs have real health benefits.
LSD isn't addictive, and unless taken by someone with an existing predisposition towards mental illness, unlikely to do any sort of lasting harm. The demonization of LSD & other psychedelics is pretty laughable when you consider the harm done by legal drugs such as alcohol, pain killers, nicotine, etc.
The post didn't bother about the socializing effects of the drugs since they are subjective and can be bad and good. I rather focused debunking the "spiritual" claims which are bullshit with no scientific evidence to support them.
kind reminder that even alcohol can be observed to have the same effects and most people are not alchoholics.
What you're fundamentally arguing against is spirituality is a concept, not whether or not hallucinogenics can induce spiritual experiences. Nothing 'spiritual' can be proven objectively.
I am arguing that both are bullshit.
very harsh terminology. short-sighted, even.
you can argue this but these are philosophical questions that are quite frankly unable to be answered
read this and spare me the drama
How Not To Use Scientific References
Psilocybin mushroom are in the same family compound (tryptamines) as LSD and DMT the active compound of ayahusca. They act on the same neuro-transmitter and have been reported to induce similar experience.
The family includes neurotransmitter serotonin (5-hydroxy tryptamine) and hallucinogenic/psychedelic drugs such as LSD, Psilocybin (magic mushrooms) - both widely-used, and other, less common, synthetic drugs such as dimethyl-tryptamine (DMT).
Diagram detailing the biosynthesis of psilocybin from tryptophan
Spare me the wikipedia copy-pasta. We are in the same family as Apes but we are not the same thing. LSD and ayahusca create much stronger effects that can cause many problems.
Also, all experiences are reported from junkies who self-affirm each other about the effects. No way to get an objective valuation. I can tell you about the positive effects of alcohol of cigarettes but it won't make any sense since they both can make you warmer and socialize or they can make you start drinking by yourself and die.
Again. bullshit conclusions since they fluctuate equally on both sides of the spectrum. And again. The point of the article was about the non-existence of spiritual claims — not trying to save the day by using political allegory that it can have "some good experience".
Once again you are being intellectually dishonest.
"The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." Alberto Brandolini
I'm not even going to bother.
Again dancing/cashing boy. The same quote copy-pasted everywhere doesn't cut it.
You claim to spend 10 hours on each post just to convince others to vote for you so you can make money here and you are talking about bullshit? You make the same circulating bullshit stat-posts about steemit and you trying to tell me that I am bullshiting?
Boy, you are the king of bullshit.
What you said was wrong. That's what I meant.
The quote is from wikipedia but quoting a encyclopedia.
That's not true. If you were to read more about the study from John Hopkin then you would realize the the spiritual experience people talked about was called as such determined by fixed criteria prior to the trip and corresponding to a scale.
So that's also wrong.
Wrong again I said I spend more than 10 hours on most of my posts. If I said something else then it is my mistake.
I hope people can realize how off you're coming for no goog reason. I know I could be wrong and be the one that is coming off. I doubt you would ever acknowledge such a thing.
As always, I expect a pretty angry answer or something distorting reality without showing much care about the person on the other side.
Take care my friend.
No way to double check this. This is why most psychological and social studies are bullshit. With interviews humans can make up anything they want. It is not like those people did not had the drug before. They interviewed people that already took the drug and most likely already shared experiences. There is no way to double blind it — hence no real science. no falsifiability.
Well, you gave zero arguments on that. This is after all why you chose to be intellectual dishonest and post about irrelevant "good things" about these drugs which btw hold no statistical significance than a placebo reaction or having a pet.
Bullshit. 90% of your posts are the same things repeated over and over again in a cheap superficial and shallow pseudo-positivism that is rather nauseating. Yey, dan, yey i made money, yey look me dance, yey look at my stats --> pay me.
Even the profile picture looks business fake. It is as if someone handed you steem power (which they did) told you to look professional so you could excuse your role in here. You self interviewed yourself and self hired through delegation? please...
I come off wrong? You see that following? Thats real following that started from ZERO telling things like they are and not because I happened to be favored by a whale that agrees with my views on specific issues. Do you know what nepotism is? Google it.
Angry? Why should I get angry about anything you say or do? You give too much credit to yourself. Just don't try to sell bullshit to me. You can be a cheap car salesman on your profile while enjoying fake comments underneath. Not on my profile mate.
you don't really mean that. Again you are being business politically correct.
my 2nd upvote , thanks for the :), my upvote was intended for @teamsteem , although i find counterpoints to be of great value! I just got here and I can already feel the steam! I hope this is a Flawless machine, it's going to be tested.