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RE: A response to @chron: Why you should believe in Herd Immunity!
Man I have nothing but respect for how you handled this, I have zero patience with people who put others at risk by not getting vaccinated.
I think that being impatient won't help and rather pushes those who don't vaxx into a corner - and even further away from seeing the sense of vaxxing. It's too late for some of them - But most of them just believe it's better to not do so for their health because they don't know better. Those are the ones we need to save.
I agree, it is important to be patient with these people but it's hard to do that in the face of ignorance
My oldest son has had more vaccines than i did when i was little, my youngest son was supposed to get even more vaccinations.
I just wiped every non deadly disease and easy-to-proof non working vaccines of the list and rubbed the poor fella in every sick persons face. He is 2,5 now, he threw up once in his life and got high fever (40C and up) a couple of times with some little red spots. But never anything i would take him to a doctor for.
Funny to notice that the list of vaccines he did get was almost identical as the vaccines i got when i was little.
Putting people at risk when not vaccinating yourself sounds weird, you could choose to be vaccinated yourself, and then you are immune. No matter how many people around you are unvaccinated. To immunize a complete population to reduce the risk for a incredible small percentage of people is the same as we all stop driving cars to eliminate the victims of car crashes.
It's your decision -But definitely not a smart one. Fevers in the are of 40°Celsius and up are not a little fever. Not going there with ever rise up t0 38.5 is perfectly fine. But 40 is a different league...
You don't get it, or you don't want to get it - herd immunity is not for the ones who can protect themselves, but for the ones who can't...
Expect the fact that our world can still function with vaccines but not without cars....
Baby's get to 40C all the time, i took the oldest one (he got all vaccins) to the doctor in a panic first time it happened, because all i knew was >40C is dangerous.
The doctor told me it was nothing and as long as they are conscious baby's can get to 40C fever for a couple of hours no problem he told me (looked it up because i never trust no one and it seemed he was right).
I do not like reasoning based on emotions, it gets muddy easily, see; I care a lot more about my own children than i do about random other people. For instance i would rather have half of the world die out than one of my children to die, most people won't admit to it because it sounds so selfish but that is how all parents will feel about it.
So how much chance is there i am doing harm to my baby by being vaccinated too much and how much chance is there someone will die because of him not being vaccinated.
And if i have these numbers how much would i value the live of my kids more than i would value the live of someone else.
It would be very hard to put numbers on that.
So i decided to take the middle way, be sure to not take more vaccine shots than needed. Do not spread deadly diseases when they can be easily prevented without causing any other harm.
The world could function with less cars, but there is also some undetermined maximum of vaccine shots a human can take, so in theory there is a maximum on the amount of vaccines the world can function with.
I dont know whos your doctor but 41°C all enzymes start denturation process and you are at high risk developing complication or dying.
Sounds like a reasonable approach to vaccination to me.
It is preposterous to vaccinate newborns for Hep B. They aren't at risk from the disease, and there is a risk of vaccine related injury.
It is medical practices like this that cast all vaccination in bad light.