Your last comment omits the consideration that population growth can be being slowed dramatically and still be going upwards anyway - his point is that without the population control programs, the populations would be even more dramatically high than they are.

Oh ok, I gotcha.

You can use politically correct language such as 'limiting population growth' if you like, but the reality is that the method being allegedly employed here DOES cause death directly, plus cancer, limited consciousness and thus untold suffering and destruction. Yes, they are starting new wars also - though that is not the focus of this post.

Thats actually kinda scary.

The entire point here is that most people can accept that there is a need to live responsibly and to not overpopulate the planet - however, the appropriate solution to that issue is not to covertly poison the majority of people!

Agreed 100% - thanks for patiently walking me through my misunderstanding.