RE: Vegetarian goes hunting: WTF?
Hmm interesting post. I was actually curious how the experience would turn out. Your friend sounds like a very intelligent girl. I think it's a wise idea to seek to educate yourself on such matters. (I hate those vegetarians/vegans who just use this choice of theirs to bash any meat-eater over the head)
What happens to the animals after you kill them? I mean, the way I see it, the "cruelty" that people see lies in that, a lot (well, also in the fact people love to be judgmental holier-than-thou assholes). Because I do believe that meat-eaters who understand that killing animals for consumption is unfair and inhumane (as opposed to those who think it's just dandy) justify it by saying that it's necessary, in order for them (Humans) to be strong and well-fed.
It's a justifiable kill, in their minds, whereas they might not see the justification in what you do. Which is why I'm asking, as I have no idea what happens :) Just so we're clear, I'm not expressing my personal opinion here...
I was a vegetarian for two years, until I was about 18 or so, by personal choice and I did do a lot of research on that. I watched videos of what goes on in abattoirs particularly because I wanted to educate myself about the truth. You're right, meat comes to us in neat little packages, but wasn't always like that. And I do believe any meat-eater should watch those and should figure out if he's okay with that or not.
But the thing is, most people don't want to do that. Hell, they probably have cats or dogs at home. They don't want to accept that they, too, are responsible for the suffering of all those chickens/pigs/cows etc. As you well know, people are happy to have the veil over their own eyes, just as long as it shows them in a golden light.
I was a vegetarian until the age of 18 (17.5 actually) when I left home. It wasn't about not killing animals, my mum was and so we all were.
The animals I shoot...What happens? Well they stay where they fell. I'll go back a week later and they're all but gone. Other animals est them up. They don't last long. If I shoot a deer I call a mate who always takes it so it doesn't go to waste.
Like others have commented the animals do not suffer. They simply are there one split second and gone the next. There is no intervening moment. It's more humane than an abattoir. You've seen the videos so know first hand. They have a free life, no cages, no cramped trucks, no walk up the ramp to the electric shock area watching their mates ahead of them getting slaughtered all the while. They live life in the wild and then it ends.
@stuffing did well. A real trooper and all done with a broken leg bone mind you...She's a good person and has a voracious appetite for understanding.
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But then what's the point? I mean, you shoot animals on someone's farm because they're trespassing or too many or something like that, right? Well, why would the guy want animal carcasses on his farm? It's weird...
And what does your mate do with the deer? :O
I don't know, I don't think the 'cruel' bit is about them suffering. I think it's about them dying for no reason...
They are culled because the damage they do to the property, fences and for eating precious feed that the cows need. The carcases are gone withing days usually so they don't litter the property. I may shoot 1 to 3 a night and go about twice a month. It's a big property so there's not hundreds of dead animals lying around. This happens on almost ever single farm around the world. Maybe not a solar or wind farm.
Sometimes it's hard for people to understand the concept and the way it happens. For example, last night we didn't see ONE carcass lying around and I was only there the week earlier and shot 4. Not one remained.
My mate eats the venison. He hasn't bought meat for consumption for 20 years. He shoots his own or gets it from people like me. He's a farmer too and has a property even bigger than the one I shoot on. It's against the law to take the kangaroo meat and so that stays, but the deer...Well, it gets eaten. (Not by me though, I hardly est much meat at all.)
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Huh. I wonder if they do that here, as well :O I suppose it makes sense, then...
Why?
To shoot kangaroos here one needs tags, permits as such. The farmer has a heap of them, lots actually, and I can shoot as many kangaroos as he is tagged/permitted for in an annual period. I cannot shoot more. It's a control mechanism so millions of them don't get shot. Still, there is no shortage of them. So, if I was hunting in the outback it's a different story, but I can't take them off the farm.
Culling takes place all over the world. It wasn't that long ago they were culling the koala population here for some reason. I don't know why and I'd never shoot a koala.
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