Technical poll: Should Gridcoin implement fixed POS block rewards? (vote until Oct. 1)
Until 1st October, 2017 Gridcoin users can vote in this poll:
Should we implement fixed POS block rewards?
Results can be seen so far:
- in your Gridcoin wallet: click on Voting (in the left navigation menu), or
- gridcoinstats
Further info:
- Github: Low network (balance) stake weight participation solution? -> ongoing since 13 months (August 2016)
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You can vote like this:
1. Windows users:
- If your wallet is encrypted, fully unlock the wallet (not just for 'staking only').
- Click "Advanced", then click "Voting" to launch the voting menu.
- Right-click on "Technical Poll: Should we implement fixed POS block rewards?"
- Click "vote".
- You have as options: Yes, No or Abstain
2. Linux users (QT Wallet/daemon):
a. via UI:
- in the Gridcoin wallet: in the left navigation menu, click on Voting
b. in terminal:
- Fully unlock your wallet.
- Navigate to the Debug Console (Help - Debug Window - Console (tab) )
- You have as options: Yes, No or Abstain
- Enter one of the following commands:
** e.g. vote with "Yes" like this: execute vote Technical_poll:_Should_we_implement_fixed_POS_block_rewards? Yes
** e.g. vote with "No" like this: execute vote Technical_poll:_Should_we_implement_fixed_POS_block_rewards? No
** e.g. vote with "Abstain" like this: execute vote Technical_poll:_Should_we_implement_fixed_POS_block_rewards? Abstain
I feel this will be implemented in the same (future) mandatory / block version as improved DPoR reward payment.
The creator of the poll said the exact opposite, in that fixed block rewards would come first. This confusion is why this poll is misleading, and the order of these implementations has a huge impact on miners.
Yes, but carefully. POS cannot be allowed to become bugged or the chain has nothing securing it.
Also, this should not be done before POR payout is changed, or miners will literally never stake on any reasonable balance due to the colossal rise in net weight.
What will happen is that miners with low stake will end up back in the pools to ensure they get rewards.
I have 60k and have staked once since V8. I realise that is less than expected, but if 60k is 'low' stake, that worries me.
The other problem with pools is that users do not control their own mag for the purpose of polls. I see there are some people in Slack advocating removal of mag weight from polls too. Say what you will, but there are drastic steps being taken, and suggested, towards a more POS centric implentation.
@Dutch's concerns remain my concerns: I want a system that benefits BOINCers, after all that's what makes GridCoin what it is. It is also not clear to make what the heck we're voting for in this poll - it seems theoretical "hey, we have a problem, should we fix it sometime?"
I said this in the Gridcoin Slack and got chewed out by a few people. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the poll is utterly unclear.
Do we actually know if any of the developers know what the heck this poll is asking them to do? How can they possibly implement something that they don't know what it is or don't themselves support?
The poll was started by CM (Customminer - who is not a dev), who clarified that approval of the poll would be taken as a desire for immediate implementation. I tried to highlight that the poll is ambiguous and got into an endless debate with several people who thought polls are allowed to be ambiguous.
Not getting involved with this poll stuff anymore unless more people make it clear the ambiguity is not acceptable. Will not be voting on it either.
Sorry for the late reply. Thank you for clarifying the efforts you have undertaken - it is helpful to understand the situation better.
poll ends TODAY, current status:
total shares: 52.4 million
the poll has ended:
57.246 million total shares
So now that the poll has ended what is expected to happen?