RE: The Elephant in The Room: The Failures of The Government
This situation would have been avoided if not for the failures of the government.
Because the government can stop people from buying guns, in turn, stopping them from committing horrible things.
The school itself had 4 armed deputies at the premises during the shooting. All of which decided to stay outside and wait out the event instead of protecting those inside.
Actually, that is Personal Incompetence. Just Following Orders isn't a defence. The government has not failed, the people who were entrusted with that office has failed, the other failure is less obvious, or thinking that they had a duty to protect those inside when the law has expressed that they have no such duty and I doubt you can point out in the constitution exactly where that duty derives from.
There were over 39 calls to the shooters home over 7 years. All including, but not limited to reports of; mentally ill person, child/elderly abuse, domestic disturbances, missing people, and more.
This doesn't tell us anything, what the Federal Investigative Bureau, which even if it was federal would have no concern with those reports, but since it's neither federal nor have any Duty or Function in relation to responding to those things then what good is it? What is the failure on the Bureau's part here? What should they have done? Arrested him for what? Who's the victim? Who are the accusers?
He would introduce himself by saying: “Hi, I’m [name redacted], I’m a school shooter”
People say all kinds of crazy shit. So what again, what would you have done? what was the failure?
From November 2017 to January 2018, there were multiple calls to the FBI, warning that this individual was unwell, and they were worried that he would enact threats he had been making about harming other individuals. Specifically: Being a school shooter.
I see, threats were being made, and somehow nobody wanted to make a sworn statement of facts, and stand as an accuser, accusing him of threats?
Who failed?
The FBI has stated on the record that they dropped the ball here. Regardless of whether or not the Broward County Sheriff’s department is willing to admit the same, it’s pretty clear they did too. This situation would have been avoided if not for the failures of the government.
Actually, all they say is that protocol was not followed. They never admitted to dropping anything.
Not more than days ago there was another shooting, at YouTube HQ in San Bruno, California. In this situation the shooter had been expressing frustration over YouTube throttling her YouTube channels. The shooter’s brother has now stated that when the shooter went missing the weekend before the shooting they reported this to the authorities. He had mentioned to the cops she was leaving from San Diego – was headed up North, and might “do something.”
Except that they hadn't the balls to stand up and write a statement of facts "She said this and this and then left and we have the impression that she intends to do this".
On the Tuesday following that weekend, the shooter was found sleeping in her car inside a parking lot in Mountain View, California. After finding the shooter and alerting her family they’d found her, the Shooter’s father has reported he told the authorities she might be headed to YouTube, because she “hated” the company. The authorities reportedly told the family they would keep an eye on her.
And what was the failuire here?
Local authorities claim that there was no obvious indication from the brother or the father that the shooter had a propensity for violence. This situation would have been avoided if not for the failures of the government.
WHAT? How the fuck ever do you come to reason that?
These situations are pointed out because it’s important to see things for what they really are when we’re analyzing trying to solve these problems. The talking points brought up by those who advocate gun control as an answer to these events, fail to mention that the events wouldn’t have happened in the first place if the laws that are already in place where actually followed properly by those who are responsible for upholding them. This is significant because in order to enact what is being advocated for by those who support regulation and control of firearms, would give more responsibilities to the very organizations that are at fault for these situations taking transpiring in the first place.
These things wouldn't have happened if people would follow the laws. Because people don't follow the law, the law fails. pwnd.
boy howdy
My thoughts exactly.
All of these shootings are the result of someone thinking it is acceptable to use a firearm as an offensive weapon. This is a moral failure, and if there were Zero guns, a different weapon would be used. Guns are not the problem, moral relativeism is the source! As long as people can slide their substitute for morals to include harming innocents, we will face similar violence.
As a side note, this kind of violence has been reduced significantly since the high in 1993. Ironically, this reduction is opposite the increase in legal firearms, used for defensive purposes.
I guess, the point I was making, again and again, is to dispell the belief that the Government is to blame when it's individuals themselves.
I agree, government is NOT and has never been the solution. However, they are a contributor; by liberal policies, they steer us towards violence. While we still have the ability to respond with force, we the people, can be the first layer of defense. As long as people feel that they have the right to hurt others, we will face violence in some manner. This is a moral failure, aggrevated by government tolerance of the intolerable, and public acceptance of same.
The American government is literally Anarchy or Self-Rule. The government you're talking about is not even government, it's only a corporation. The Federal Government is not the American Government, the Federal Government is the agent of the King to Rule over his subjects, who the Free, Sovereign, and Independent people are not part of as they went to war with the king over it. When you say "government" this and that you fail to mention the nature of the government, which is neither Public and as a consequence nor Lawful Actual Government. The point I was making is not that government isn't the solution to gun violence, but that government isn't to blame for the failures of people. I should have said that: the moment someone abuses the powers vested into them or usurps the position of power by reaching outside their authority, that moment is when they stopped being Government and became Lawlessness, and that is not to ever be mistaken with Government itself, but let it be perfectly clear that the person in charge of the office, the one who swore to never to abuse, not the institution they were part of, is to blame. The institution is no more the moment it acts against its directives. Then by the function, it is something else that is only there in name or pretending.
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-Ig65tnTGOlAxofs0/free%20sovereign%20and%20independent_djvu.txt
That's a good start.
I would argue that you misunderstand the definition of "anarchy" as it is not at all synonymous with "lawlessness".
If the institution that the despot in question is a part of tolerates their despotic actions, maintains their office, and has established a system wherein they maintain their power, is the system to blame then?
I didn't insinuate let alone hint anywhere that anarchy was lawlessness and in fact went at length to tie in anarchy with lawfulness as our government is Self Rule as the people expressly reserve their right to Self-Rule, which is the definition of Anarchy isn't it, to govern oneself.
I also explained clearly how any institution once it stops acting outside it's published directives and counter to those it stops being that institution, regardless the fact that they chose to call themselves such and such, and all on the fact that they have gone against their own directives and words, and in the case of governance, at all levels and in all forms it stops being so the moment it acts outside its limits.