Non Binary Kids

in #gender8 years ago (edited)

Parenting Transgender, Non-binary, and Gender-Expansive Youth.

This video is new and what we are moving into. telling your babies they can be anything they want no matter about what reality is.
Even the adults are buying into it. Just goes to show that people of all ages can be retarded.
This is safe to attack right? I swear this is like twilight zone. It just came out today and its 40 min so I could only play with part of it. Not trying to make a 3 hour video on this dribble.
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When I was a teen there was a book released about a boy raised as a girl by his mom (from toddler age). It was a high selling book, a big rage over it like she abused him. I dunno. i just know that all these things to do with gender are topsy turvy. Kids can figure out what they are without being coaxed into it from a young age.

The only issue I have with gendered toys are that girl toys are often stupid shit like a pink toy shopping cart. Kids learn that shit getting dragged along shopping anyway. Some people are the other way around and are paranoid about their kids being 'gay' so lay on the stereotypes thick; even as the kid gets older and shows on their own a preference for things more typical of their non-biological gender. The best thing a parent can do is back off and just treat the kid like they are an individual and normal. No, i'm not a parent, but from the outside it looks like some contemporary parents are way over-involved in their kids identity. No wonder childhood is extended, with people delaying the differentiation from parents phase to this extent.

Kids like when the adults in their lives teach them what they're asked. Kids are also easily molded, like skeptic said. If it's truly about what someone identifies, just let them figure out by exploring the world just as they figure out other things. Support unobtrusively. It's not hard to observe and adjust to their preferences.

That's how it happened with my relative. he liked dolls and sailor moon, act a little girly more and more each year, we all knew he was gay. We played dolls with him as kids, his parents bought him dolls, and no one had a talk about gender politics to confuse the kid. And when we became older he 'came out'.

I also lived with a young trans-man who was transitioning as a teens. He just figured it out on his own and made the decision. Same experience with their trans friends. The difference seems to me the acceptance in school and society.

Gender exists as we can tell that most people identify with their birth gender, or the opposite. so many Two-spirited people I met never cared if they were called either he or she by someone at any moment. your choice. So there are extreme opinions from pro-trans too. Calling someone transphobic because they don't believe in non-binary pronouns, is no better than insisting that a hyperfeminine transwoman is 'still a man' It's not right to assume trans people automatically hold the beliefs of every transadvocate in the media

I can sympathize from more personal experience. Still at my age, my more traditional parent seems to have some paranioa like I might have a sex change because I want to be a mechanic. 'Are you sure? How many women do that?' And she kept offering to buy me dresses all last year. I leave it alone cuz she's from the generation she is.

These petty obstacles are very real, for people who just want to be who they are. So I'm also baffled by how some transactivists want to push their beliefs like "there's no biological sex' on people. What about belief diversity? As if their feelings of being referred to by a non-binary pronoun are more important than another persons ingrained or adopted beliefs about gender. that shit is 1984, and does more harm than help to the rights of trans ppl imo.

And record word count in replies belongs to me!!!

It's not right to assume trans people automatically hold the beliefs of every transadvocate in the media

This!

People may get together because they recognize they may have similar problems, not because they agree in a solution.

It's not about telling kids they can be whatever they want, it's about telling them that they will be loved regardless of what they turn out to be. It's about them understanding that there are options, because feeling powerless can lead to reckless behavior.

I always try to tell people in my talks that the reason why I take time off my life to speak about this stuff is so that the options are so widely known that people actually have room to think about what they really want. It's not about telling children how they should be, it's so that a child feels free enough to tell their parents what is going through their head, what their desires are, as opposed to going behind their back and hurting themselves while experimenting with their body.

Acceptance is not support, acceptance is a pursue to understanding.

there is a difference in letting your kid know they will be loved no matter and telling a kid under 5 they don't have to be a boy and if you want to be a girl we will stil love you when the kid would never think that unless brought up by an outside source.
the father I triggered by the term "tom boy" and when people told him to embrace it he would get triggered.

Give me a child and I'll shape him into anything. - B. F. Skinner

Its a brave new world and it has to do with conditioning.

the poor girl is 5 they are talking about and instead of just letting her be who se was and into things that might not it into their (the parents) ideas of the rold that determins they then go on to tell the little girl she can be a boy instead. because the little girl like stuff that isn't made only for girls? why cant the kid just be a girl that's into whatever? girls cant be into sports now they have to go gender nutrual or trans or something?
Kids that young soak up anything and everything they are around so telling them they can be boy or girl becomes reality to them escpecally when coming from their parents.
Idk, when I watch it all I can think of is I got the simple truth the birds and the bees and now the kids in kindergarten get 200 genders based off of the things your into and you can change whenever you want and play pretend and make believe land and if anyone else says different they have a problem not you and they still cant accept it takes a male and a female to make a baby. so now we got dudes that say they are lesibans dating girls that say they are lezbo so in the end they are just straight but cant say it that way because they are a non binary couple and the dude goes by xe and zed and the girl goes buy they them. its all make believe. its still a dude and a chick even if they are fucked in the head and there for perfect for each other.
I shouldn't have to play to there fantasy because if I don't I might offend them. also to raise kids like that is child abuse imo, but whatever nothing I am going to do is going to help them. they have to many enabelers and supporters and the idea is to make it the norm.
All I can do is watch and laugh at this point.

You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. -Ayn Rand

If you can shape the kid into anything, what does that say about the nature of gender? Basically you are telling me that it is learned, and while a lot of it is, I think some of it is not.

If you can change what you call reality with a little media influence, what does that say about this reality?

I guess I am trying to understand what your fear is with this subject, because the situation of parents indoctrinating their children into a number of things that could be harmful is not new. What it is about the possibility of this potential form of indoctrination that bothers you so much? Is it that you feel pressured to play along or else look like you're stupid or backwards?

I can't see how anyone would want their child to be trans, I can see how people would want to get attention and even use their children for this purpose, but they will use whatever subject they think they can get attention with.

I can understand someone being afraid of the psychological consequences of repressing a child's true personality, I can't understand them only applying this concern to certain kids.

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Interesting - I have a post coming out that sort of brushes this issue with a discussion I was having elsewhere, but it's not hugely related to what I'm posting.

It's one that I'm interested in though because as I understand it we are binary beings, no matter what we say we have a penis or a vagina (or both) and we are sexually attracted to either male, or female people (or both). I can't see how someone can come out and say "I'm non-binary" when were are clearly binary beings.

But again, as I say, I'm open to interpretation, I only take this stance because I found out the term non-binary only last night lol

I personally can't relate to those who refer to their gender as non-binary, but there were times in which I felt that I didn't fit into the existing cathegories and started trying to explain myself by using words I had created or thought decribed my situation better. Often these kids feel like they don't belong, like an alien, and I think that has a lot to do with the adoption of identities that aim to differienciate themselves from what they observe as the norm, what people assume of them that they don't identify with.

There are people who think there is such a thing as the ultimate men or woman, since they can't achieve the 100% of things people think their sex should be like or do, they protest this in a number of ways, sometimes by rejecting the idea that there are trends that tend to manifest given a person's biology, which can be quite dangerous.

Yep. Definitely dangerous. And I am keen on this subject because a core part of my wellness was becoming comfortable with my sexuality. That I am, in fact, hetero-sexual and male, and that I do cry and have strong, powerful emotions and that's fine also.

I think identifying yourself within your core being, whether you are hetero, bi, homo, or trans is healthy in my opinion - separating yourself from that is not healthy. But again, I could be wrong. It's all opinion and speculation from my end right now

When I was a kid there was a girl who lived nearby who had no interest in 'girly' things and only played sports and rode bikes with the local boys. She was 7 at the time I believe. No one cared that she was a girl and no one perverted it into this trans crap that people are doing now. She was just a little girl who preferred to play with boys. Her parents didn't care (probably because just like the rest of our community they were drunk rednecks). I'd look her up to see what became of her as an adult but I don't recall her last name.

she is prolly a normal person. now days that girl would be told she is trans and really a boy in a girl body instead of being like oh shes a girl that likes sports or whatever you want to call it.
if kids aren't confused enough we now have to throw this 900 gender crap on them.
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I don't understand what the big deal is with gay, Transgender or any other classification/label people fall into our chose to be part of. As long as they are not hurting anyone let people be who they want to be and respect the individual for the being they are. In my humble opinion teaching acceprance and installing the most stable home environment possible is enough, no need to go to extreme.

tell that to Canada where they are trying to pass a law tha makes it a criminal offence to use the wrong pronoun when talking to or about someone.
It is effecting others if they are demanding others start to speak and think a way.
It becomes a problem when science, logic, facts and reasons get thrown out the door because fweelings.
As for a big deal, I guess it just depends on how big of a deal you think it is to brain wash people and little children into thinking stuff that is fake is true.

We are talking about little kids trying to pull their penis off because they learned in school masculinity is bad nd they can change into a girl if they don't want to be "toxic".
To try to support the idea that its ok if people think they are part dragon or wolf or some other gender or a vampire or anything that isn't real blows my mind.
People should have the right to do that stuff if they want but pushing an agenda onto little kids is wrong. if you raise your kids to think killing is ok chances are they are going to kill and see nothing wrong with it. if you raise your kid to think stealing and rape is ok chances are they are going to grow up to rape and steal and not think they are doing anything wrong. If you teach a kid that make believe matters more then reality chances are that they will grow up detached from reality living in phantasy land and not feel that what they think is wrong.
No matter how many people say the world is flat will not have any effect on reality. pretending the world is flat after we have evidence and proof it is round is ignorant and supporting people that want to think the world is flat out of fear of hurting their opinion is hurting everyone.

We are talking about little kids trying to pull their penis off because they learned in school masculinity is bad nd they can change into a girl if they don't want to be "toxic".

This is exactly the type of things some of us are trying to avoid. But for some reason you have convinced yourself of the opposite.

well I guess I see it as people are pushing this problem onto little kids and the numbers show that this is happening because of the teaching of this lies. the number of kids under 5 trying to pull their dick off has skyrocketed recently and it just happens to be in the areas where they are teaching this dribble to little kids.
So I guess we both want the same outcome but have different ideas on why this is happening. I see it as this gender crap is the cause of it because this problem is groing at an incredible rate sence we brought this crap into action recently. you seeit as trying to fix the problem that it created. its ok we disagree and it isn't a big deal because we both want the best for the kids.
If teaching or trying to teach this stuff to little kids is causing them to try to do this destructive stuff at incressing numbers that would have been unheard of 3 years ago is not a reason to stop this then how is increasing this program that's making kids pull off their penis going to fix the problem?
You come off to me as someone that can admit their is a problem but will not look at the one thing everyone is point at as the cause of it. we are all yelling this is when it started and this is what is causing it, then people on the other side say no, don't yo want to help the kids. the stuff that is doing this is there to help them.
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Its the problem and until you come to grips with the fact that your soulution is the problem and the reason for all of this, it will only continue and get worse. drug addicts do the same thing.
They claim they are sick because they ran out of drugs. we tell them the drugs are the problem. they then get all emo and say you just don't understand. cycle continues and gets worse.
Pushing the cause of the problem as the solution is horrible imo.
We both are ony caring about the kids in the end even if we both have different opinions on what should be done or not done at all.

It seems you are not understanding some of what I am trying to tell you so I am going to put it simply for you. This didn't start when you think it did. We were infiltrated and anyone talking sense, defending free speech, was isolated from trans groups online. What you are seeing is a campaign, and some people who may be trans or think they are may be involved, but that's not who's mostly behind the campaign.

Nobody was going into schools talking to them about gender, issues of gender in the context of trans were being discussed amongst ourselves, some people jumped in and said that they had a solution and from then on everyone who opposed was an oppresor and marginalized because feminism and patriachy.

This is bigger than whatever left vs right mentality some may be trying to fight, this is a crime against humanity, what is being done to men and women, but specially men.

You think you know what's going on, and it's nice to know what you see moves you enough to act, it gives me a little hope, but if you really knew what was going on you'd be shitting yourself.

You wanna know what the biggest shocker was for me on the so called journey? Realizing how distracted all of us are, how much stuff we all miss, how we can easily go on automatic and not see what is happening right before our eyes. People just getting through life without looking to the sides. You'd be amazed how much people miss, how they will believe anything you tell them if you only do it right.

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-It seems you are not understanding some of what I am trying to tell you so I am going to put it simply for you. This didn't start when you think it did. We were infiltrated and anyone talking sense, defending free speech, was isolated from trans groups online. What you are seeing is a campaign, and some people who may be trans or think they are may be involved, but that's not who's mostly behind the campaign.
+you have anther reply you sent me I still have to respond to. I will get to it soon. %0A%0AI think you want to believe I don't understand you. I am not saying trans is a new thing or that this push is only recent. I have grown up with trans people in my family and around a lot of gay people in my family and non intermediate family. I feel it is stupid that you assume I am disconnected from the world and really wish you didn't just put me in a situation where I have to validate my opinion by stating things about my family as to show that I am not disconnected with what is going on.%0A%0A%3EWhat you are seeing is a campaign, and some people who may be trans or think they are may be involved, but that's not who's mostly behind the campaign.%0A%0AI agree and would also like to add that this movement is corrupted and most, not all of the trans people I know or have grown up around think this movement is bullshit. I personally believe it is detrimental to the people that are really having to deal with being trans.
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+%0A%0Amaybe I have a good idea and is why I speak out so much about it. I get I don't know everything and am still learning but o keep trying to say I don't really know whats going on to invalidate my perspective is not an argument. again I really dislike the way you put me in situations where I have to defend the right to have a valid opinion. It is a huge down fall of how you are coming at me. I don't sit around and say you don't know whats really going on or if you really had an idea of what its like. you have no idea about how I think or what my life has been and vice versa.
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+%0A%0AI do realize it and it is a big thing im trying to point out. I am constantly having to stop and think about things because I find myself going on automatic. part of the reason I take so long to respond to you. %0A%0A%3EYou'd be amazed how much people miss, how they will believe anything you tell them if you only do it right.%0A%0AYeah like the fact that brain washing kids into think gender matters and blah blah blah is bad and maybe im not saying it the right way is the problem. because the people making and creating this problem and pushing to make it worse sure have found the right way to tell everyone. they use emotion to get people to break down their walls. facts and logic are getting thrown out the door and it is why we have people pushing to teach more preschoolers about this crap when it is the problem. we watch the numbers increase dramaticly at a crazy pace yet no one will accept that what they are doing to fix the problem is only making it worse. Just watch and see as the numbers keep increasing as people keep trying to push the same ideas as a solution when their solution is what is making the numbers increase. %0AIm actually getting sick of talking about it because the amount of lies andfake studies and propaganda that is getting pushed at me but when I present actual facts and stuff its thrown out the door becase it doesn't follow along with the narrative. they then move on to the next thing they try to get a gatcha moment out of. as long as people keep pushing this ideas of feelings over facts, logic,science, and reason then things are only going to continue to get orse and gender is just one part of this whole narrative. they are trying to seprate us into any catagorie they can, sex, race, gender, religeion its all the same bullshit. believe the other side is wrong no matter what is said and not care about the facts and use reason, no go pure emotional and ignoe reality.%0A:/%0Asry bout the rant.%0Aill try to get to the other reply you send me yesterday evening soon.

I really dislike the way you put me in situations where I have to defend the right to have a valid opinion

This! This is exactly why I did it. So that you know why some of those kids go so crazy when they feel like they have to tell you about their personal lives just to make a point that they know what they are talking about when they speak of their desires, about the way they see the world.

I'm not telling you to play along and tell them they are right, I am telling you that if you want them to listen, calling them names is not going to help.

Movements are not necessarily about agreeing about solutions or about what the problems are. The only thing necessary for a movement to form is for people to come together thinking they have an issue in common that can't be tackled individually.

this idea that if you disagree with a group you become an oppressor and are part of the problem

Some trans people may hold this idea but this is not an idea created by trans people and I think it is dangerous to foster its association to us. This idea I see more prevalent in feminism but is not even exclusive to feminism. You can see this idea in a lot of places, some cults are very famous for using these tactics to keep a following. It is the same idea that drives prople to believe all speaking against Hillary are supporting Trump.

This is the idea I am trying to bring awareness to, because it is what in my opinion is causing most problems. But people thinking that I hold this idea because I am trans have an agenda and disregarding what I have to say makes my work a lot more difficult.

Your are not disagreeing with groups, you are disagreeing with actions born of ideas.

Gender fluid and non-binary doesnt exist.
It is an ideology, it has no basic in science. Just because people feel something doesn't make it so. People imagine things and dream things, lie about themselves about things. People would think they were from out of space and would be put in a mental asylum. Or think they were a dog.
Why are people pushing this without real facts? are people trying to virtue signal to get popularity?
Do you know how dangerous this is and what this does to people?
There are people who get their limbs severed because they feel the identify as a physically challenged. One woman had her doctor burn her eyes because she wanted to be blind.
This gender neutral gender fluid parenting is child abuse. It is deliberately gaslighting the vulnerable youth.
I'm not rightwing, I'm apolitical in case you were wondering since people who speak out against this always get labeled with the assumption we're rightwing, republican conservative or religious, I'm none of those. I'm a survivor of mental abuse. And I recognize this new trend on how to treat children as some new left-mentality to be anti-human nature and to 'child groom' children to be anything but what the human race has for the long majority always been.
This counter-culture treatment put onto kids seems like some new age ideology that democratic academia has indoctrinated people to turn against what is universal about human nature, this is exploiting something that rarely occurs to try and force it to be more mainstream. It is social engineering. And with the amount of if exploding all of a sudden in the past 2 years has people also recognize it as a cult, as some movement disguised as something else. I will mention the term shills, because why the heck would people be promoting something so detrimental to children unless they were getting paid for it? Or is this another part of the socialist in the democrat party funded by the Obama administration to further attack on the Western values and family unit break down?

I think the people promoting it have already been brainwashed and their is no reason to pay them just lke religious people are willing to spread the word of god for free. they have bought into it and will do anything to keep their fantasy alive, we already know they lie to them selfs so should be no surprise they lie to everyone elese.
I think I agree with and have the same feelings on all the other stuff you wrote.
I get scard when I think of what its going to be like in 10 years.
ll prolly be in jail for not using correct pronouns and calling people stupid.
lol
Fuck shit is getting bad.

Some people do it for free because at the time they believe, yes. They usually enchant people by giving them a sense of belonging, similar to what some christians have been seen to do.

Even if the person realizes that they've been lied to, it's hard to get away because it would mean losing all your friends, perhaps your job, etc. Much like a cult, I have seen people getting chased if they try leaving. This is a very complex issue.

sounds just like the trans-trenders, feminism, religeons and racist idealogs. I agree its just like a cult.

Some people are getting paid for this, yes. Trans people have been saying this.
The subject of children and their potential abuse has been used to upset you, to distract you.
I've been saying this would happen just like it's happening, word for word.

Western values and family unit break down

This little part right here I think is what may be keeping you from seeing the rest. No such thing as Western values and family is not going to end. This is a scare tactic, they want to make you feel like your values can be taken from you when in fact you give them up. You are conditioned to react to certain words, they make you believe there are words you need protecting from so that they can keep their influence on human thought through censorship.

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