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RE: Board Gaming - Balloon Cup

in #gaming6 years ago

There is something that I feel is very wrong in this game:
if you can play the balloons on either side, why the middle cards even have two sides? (getting higher numbers or getting lower numbers) one of them is always enough and changes nothing in the game mechanics, as players can play on either side.

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Well without the cards (tiles) in the middle, you wouldn't know if you were needing to be the higher total or the lower total to win it's cubes.
When I say you can play on either side, the choice is that one side is your side, and the other is your opponents. So if you need to have a higher total, dropping a 1 or 2 on their side is likely to be disappointing to their chances of winning, likewise with needing a low total and your opponent plays a 12 or 13 on your side it really makes it tough to win that location.

So on your turn you really have to decide if you're better off playing a good card on your side, or a bad one on their side. Which often depends on the cards in your hand

the question is, why you need some tiles to be higher and some tiles to be lower?

(Unless I missed something critical in the rules, even after playing this game 20 times,) I claim the game is Mathematically equal having the tiles flipping (normal rules), or having them all higher wins, or having them all lower wins.

  • lets say I have a 1 blue card, and I want to use it to win a tile with blue cube/s.
  • I would always put it on the side where that value would benefit me the most (for example: left)
  • if the tile was on its the other side, I would put the card on the other side (for the same example: right)
  • all other cards that players had put and will put next to that tile uses the same logic.
  • so all the card side placements (left or right) are just reflecting which side of the tile is up, not a meaningful tactical choice.

Mathematics aside, the confusion element created by the 2 sides of the tiles, have affect on my gameplay, which I wish that game didn't have 😞

I see I misunderstood what you were asking.

I guess the designer liked the idea of having some variation. It also gives a second decision making process when you have very high or very low cards in hand.

Example - There's a tile that is about to be scored with 1 more card played on it. It needs low currently, and the opponent has the 1 space on their side. Do you play your 13 on it, even though you'd win regardless of what's played, or do you keep it for after it's flipped (and hope the right colour cube turns up on it)

I've never found the process of scoring, flipping, adding cubes to a tile, and playing on to be confusing at all, but I do get the point that the game can feel a bit mechanical regarding the choice of where to put the card being obvious, but you don't have 1 card, you have 7. And it's only mechanical when there aren't options of what you play.

  • You have a second blue card that is opposite to the one you have (lets say 4 and 10, 4th highest vs 4th lowest).
  • You want to win that tile with a blue cube on it. Is it better to first play the good one for you, even though the opponent could have a better card to reply with, or do you play on their side first hoping they don't have a worse card for you in reply?
  • What if you have some of those better/worse cards as well? The decision often comes down to probabilility, and also if they'll even play there (or if they can. tracking the cards that have been makes the decisions even more like solving a maths problem.

I've never played with either always high or always low, but sometimes during the game getting the 2 low ones to flip so everything is high can be useful if you've got a fist full of high cards. Likewise for going low when all you seem to draw is below 4.

My point is that the tiles side (score on low OR score on high), doesn't add any decision making.
This is because you can place cards on either side.
"Placing high cards on right benefit me and placing low cards on left benefit me" is symmetric to "Placing low cards on right benefit me and placing high cards on left benefit me". The only difference is the confusion caused between the two.

I think the sides of the tiles are remanent of the earlier game designs, when 'you couldn't place a card on the opposite side', and/or maybe 'couldn't place a card on the opposite side unless your side is already full'.

Quite possibly, or it could just be that this was a mechanic that the designers thought was a worthwhile addition to their game. I personally like the additional choices that it gives me, and have certainly used it to my advantage.

But like most things, No matter how a game is designed, it's not going to work for everyone. I still find it a nice 2 player game, especially if you want something to fill in between longer games or while you wait for others to arrive

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