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So she is a gold-digger and he is an opportunist. Perfect match i say.

Perfect unmatch rather, if they were to utter those realities out loud. But in the real world no one says those things - or their equivalents - not even to themselves - therefore perfect family bliss!

What happens if she is financially independent and he is emotionally independent?

If she's financially independent she won't want him for his money. If he's emotionally independent he won't want her for the way she makes him feel.

In an ideal culture we would have just as many varies of ways to relate with one another as there are people relating. Instead we are limited to these very narror culturally defined terms, like 'dating' 'boyfriend' 'wife' 'fuck-buddy' 'friend'.... I could name them all. Which is the problem.

True. Agreed. I have the same idea about sports: enough already with everyone liking the same 3-4 sports! Ideally, every time I met a person, and asked him what sport he likes, half the time I'd hear something I never heard before!

But on to your point. Granted. But just a thought that came to me: don't you think there are good ways and bad ways to relate to someone? Don't you think feminists have a point when they say some humans objectify, or use, other humans, and that that's a bad thing?

" Don't you think feminists have a point when they say some humans objectify, or use, other humans, and that that's a bad thing?"

Not entirely. The only 'bad' things I see in our current relationships.

  • Dishonesty
  • Lack of communication
  • Lack of effective methods for meeting needs
  • Lack of understanding ones needs

Feminists may say that men "use" women for their bodies. I saw this hilarious meme of a Hooters chick hating on a feminist because she was mad she wasn't sexy (or something to that effect).

Some women like to be able to use their natural born erotic capital in exchange for other forms of captial. It seems the only women complaining about it are ones who aren't as fortunate (in the erotic area). I have a friend who is a stripper in las vegas. She absolutely loves her job and the ability to sell her erotic capital and have men objectify her... There may be some other areas that are definitly in need of fixing in that realm.

This isn't to say there aren't problems, there certainly are. But, as always. It will take an entire article to fully respond with what I mean with different methods of relating.

Off to write an article :)

Dishonesty
Lack of communication
Lack of effective methods for meeting needs
Lack of understanding ones needs

I agree. Surely fixing these will go a long way toward making relationships better.

As a man, I also understand all your other points, and have made them myself oftentimes. I'm not entirely sure where the truth lies though. And the subject is complicated as you mention.

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