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RE: Road To Freedom Part 10

in #freedom6 years ago

I haven't been around to much lately but I do want to weigh in on this ongoing war that Kafkanarchy has waged against Adam Kokesh. I've often stated here and there that some people are given a unfair advantage over others by receiving large delegation because of name recognition that I often felt didn't achieve the result that was expected by bringing new people aboard Steemit. Adam being one of them, yes it's laughable to think he'd ever win the presidency therefore all the money he was earning was in vain in that respect. Still I had a lot of fun poking at Adam, many others did the same. One thing I have to say is for as much as I didn't agree with his platform or the prospects that he'd ever be president he respected my right to poke at him or make
comments that were counter to his presentations, he respected that right on many, many occasions. He was always the opposite of how he was portrayed in a video by @LarkenRose, he was never hostile, malice, vindictive or what I'd consider dangerous. I've seen many of his postings and he has never came off faking compassion and real humanity or concern towards others when anyone commented opposite of what they wanted, in all reality Kokesh has and always has been above board when it came to not censoring anyone's comments on these boards, he did a stellar job compared to many, many others who post articles here. That is where this war Kafkanarchy started waging against Kokesh started, he demand Kokesh censor someone's post. Adam as a anarchist and follower of voluntarism knows that in a free society people have a right to say what they want, it would be acting upon any perceived illegality that would be wrong, people say awful things all the time but that does not make them criminal unless you actually are endangering others lives like yelling fire in a crowded place. In a supposed truly free society Kokesh and Kafkanarchy should be able to practice whatever they deem as a voluntary society, last time I looked nobody died and left Kafkanarchy in charge of determining the rules of voluntarism. What we have here is exactly that. A one man waged war based on his determination of what voluntarism is all about. He has been a thorn in Adams side pushing him to censor what other people say and arguing the standards of Kokesh voluntarism doesn't stand up to his. Kokesh wasn't the one monitoring his blog site, I can't say for sure because I don't know but if a upvote went to Posh Princesses comment then came down I would just be assuming the possibility that it came to Adams attention and he to thought it was overboard and down voted it, just like I'd be assuming to that since he couldn't be provided conclusive evidence that Ben Farmer did what was alleged, since a outside force who has a grudge against Kokesh is involved and would have known Farmers phone number that possibly could have been given to someone to stage the appearance it came from his phone, there is plenty of technology out there that will let someone with a deep seated hatred do something like that, that the best Adam was left to say about it was Ben is no longer here. There is really nothing left for him to say but I took care of it without having to take sides because I can't conclusively say that either side was right or wrong. Like I'd like to repeat I am just sitting on the outside looking in, nothing I say at this point is conclusive concerning my speculation of the above mentioned matters. The only real truths that I have to provide is that it's always been Kafkanarchy hating on Kokesh, I've even played along with Kafkanarchy in his remarks concerning Kokesh presidential ambitions and never once has Kokesh ever displayed that he felt threatened or that he wasn't able to deceive me into his thought pattern as depicted in the Larken video. Kokesh has always come off as a free, fun loving I am having the time of my life guy, he always appeared to take everything in stride. On the other side of the spectrum, with Kafkanarchy it was just the opposite when I followed him, as a newbie here on this platform his behavior towards me was appalling and frightening at the time. I started following him because he seemed to be a peace loving man of wisdom but it didn't take long to see how that unfolded not to be true as presented to me when engaged with him in a conversation over a contest he ran:

Okay, so let me get this right, you post you are going to give money to someone who needs it. There were rules to follow like you had to link the story to the post. There was never any mention that you would go out looking for someone if you didn't like the people's stories who followed your instructions. You also didn't mention that someone could also win brownie points if they happen to go about gathering up other members for steemit. Your instructions were quite clear,

Write a short essay in an original post on your blog telling me who needs help. Who needs food. Who needs medicine. Who needs help, right now. Anyone, anywhere in the world. Post a link to your essay in the comment section of this post!

The winning candidate proposed by the essay will be sent 100 SBD for this need.

Please do explain to those who took the time to submit a project how guys who may or may not have the "time" to stop by to see these kids are helping these kids in the way instructed in your rules of providing a need such as food or medicine. They didn't even spent the majority of their blog focusing on these kids and their daily activities. You gave the money to a guy or a group of guys claiming how much better off they were now making money off steemit. This wasn't a improvement contest this was a need contest and they obviously didn't need it as much as people starving or lack medicine.

You should really be ashamed of yourself for not committing to what you said the original goal was, for going outside the rules posted, and more importantly ashamed of the fact that it is apparent these guys used these kids just to get the money for themselves, none of that money will go towards those kids.

I am really disappointed in you, you showed a severe lack of judgement and I am sure lost trust among those who took the time to respond to your request and will not be fooled by you again.

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[-]kafkanarchy84 (74) · 10 months ago
Wow. If you are finished attempting to berate me online now, for trying to do a charitable giveaway, please alllow me brief space for an answer.

The winner had already posted a mini-blog/proposition on my original post, asking if that was the proper way to participate. I told him to please write a post. Upon searching for his blog post I assumed that the blog post I found was his official entry. My heart had gone out to him and those children from his first comment and picture. If you wish to fault me this, that is your prerogative.

In reviewing your post, you supplied a wealth of information about Bangladesh, but not a single hint of how the 100 SBD would get from you to these people.

Finally, it is my money to disperse of (or not) as I please. No, I am not “ashamed.” This actually makes me want to laugh. If you feel I am in some way unfair, you are free to not participate in any further contests on this blog. In fact, to be honest, I’d probably never consider you as a legitimate candidate, after this vitriolic episode here.

Thanks for commenting.

~Graham

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[-]sunlit7 (47) · 10 months ago
There were rules implemented, your response to him told him again what he needed to do. He failed to achieve that. Furthermore once it was determined that he took money and bought t- shirts to advertise Steemit should have been enough for you to realize he was using his money in the wrong way to help these children, he could have shown you books or writing materials to help these children though that would still not fall within the guidelines of food or medicine but would have been a little more credible.

At the end of the post I submitted there was a link to a whole host of organizations that help them. Like you said the money was to go to the people not the author of the piece. The article submitted by them had no link either where to send the money but obviously since it was going to them they didn't need one now did they?

Yes it is your money to disperse as you please but what you did was not keep your stated mission that the money would go towards needs of food and medicine and what this ended up being was pleasing a guy or a bunch of guys who in the end will remember you gave them money which will entice them to keep following you along with encouragement to new recruits to do the same. You made it perfectly clear this wasn't about ourselves or enriching ourselves then you turn right around and see an opportunity to enrich yourself over the starving people on this planet. Furthermore I don't know what would make you think I'd ever trust you again to do so much work just to have you twist the rules of the game in your favor ever again. Nobody likes to be chastised but you were surely deserving of it, a blind man could see what you done there.

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[-]kafkanarchy84 (74) · 10 months ago
If you’d read his blog you’d know his mission is more then buying T-shirts. What a silly thing to say.

You’re right. I had rules implemented. In the end, I did what I felt was right.

I’ve had no problems with contests up to this point, but felt his post was most deserving of the reward. If people wish to no longer participate in my contests( where the rules are pretty simple and things have alsways run smoothly) that’s fine.

Your attitude toward someone you don’t even know is horrible. Don’t comment on my blog again unless you wish to be flagged, and spare me the “chastising.”

Right. I did this because I need them to follow me. That’s funny.

With all due respect, fuck off.

https://steemit.com/community/@kafkanarchy84/winner-of-the-100-sbd-essay-contest-announcement

As you can see he clearly had no problem telling me to fuck off and threatened to flag me. If I was a betting person and I had to chose who would be more likely to be hostile, malicious, vindictiveness and dangerous between the two of them Kafkanarchy would be the one fitting that bill.

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You’re an asshole. My family was threatened man. I’ve never violated you or Kokesh. If heated exchanges are equivalent to violence to you (you’re betting on that, right?) then you’re not going to have a good time.

Minor disagreements about shit don’t justify violent threats, do they? Are you even familiar with what happened?

As far as “always hating” on, I asked Adam about his platform and ideas and critiques these initially and was met with personal
insult.

You should familiarize yourself with this, and stop trying to victim blame.

It’s not only me, either, but several others, including children that have been pressured, coerced and/or threatened by these scum.

Thanks for posting that exchange between us, though. I hope everyone reads it. It says a lot.

Adam Kokesh is a fry brain who can barely maintain his house on wheels, you are hardly going to convince the world that he has the monetary means let alone the influence to hire a hit man, I am sure Russian hackers aren't cheap either. You are way off track and have been for months. You are butt hurt that Adam wouldn't go to censoring people on your demand and he doesn't conform to your standard of voluntarism. What you did with that contest showed how deceptive you can be, want things to your advantage and when you threaten to flag people and tell them to f off then continue to name call everybody here on this blog, including myself names it shows who really lacks self control. I am glad I posted all this because if anyone comes along you just reinforced everything I said about your character. When it comes to being angry it is clearly you who lacks self discipline and that places a lot of doubt as to whether your own anger could have drove you to set him up because you just can't stand it that you can't always have your own way.

Lol. You know me, and can judge my character. Okay. 👍🏽

You’re right. I am a horrible and deceptive person and all the evidence is meaningless because...reasons.

Since I am so horrible and evil, maybe you can help me change. I actually know something that might help.

(And, *driven)

I didn't claim to know everything about your character just aspects of what your character is like.

You want to change then stop beating a dead horse, in the real world Kafkanarchy what transpired between you and a members of the Kokesh team wouldn't have even brought charges let alone jail time, threats are not a crime unless acted upon, threats that no one on here even can conclusively say weren't conjured up by a group of ex girlfirends and one guy with a grudge that someone wasn't falling into line with his demands. This is exactly why we need a system in place that protects people, even if all that you and his ex's say were to be true and not trumped up by you guys, it wouldn't amount to a life sentence. On the other hand though your constant continued harassment of Kokesh would have you charged with stalking and harassment whereas your burden of proof would have to be something other then screenshots anyone could have made and the fact he didn't downvote or censor people who followed him.

and ps: you may want to consider stopping the nasty habit of telling people to f off, always strive to be that first impression that brought people to you.

Reading your above comment, it’s clear you don’t know the details and are uninformed. The infosec is here on Steemit and also on Twitter if you’d like to go attack them, or hear directly from the source. If you had followed the story you’d know that.

No hard feelings sunlit. Sorry about the “f off” thing. I’m working on it. Some people are just so insensitive and accusatory in such an inane, hurtful, and foolish manner it’s clear that human, rational dialogue is out of the question.

You—no offense—don’t seem able to grok some of the things I’m saying, and appear to attack like a boorish wild animal which perceives any disturbance as a personal threat. I can’t really apologize for the ineptitude of others, but if it makes you feel better, I’m sorry you wound up like this.

There is only one thing that the "infosec" person can provide and that is evidence that Ben hired this person for those awful services you say were to be done, if that is not provided, then they are adding nothing at all, and so far there is no smoking gun...

⬆️ Kokesh campaign former staffer who has told me in private that he “does not like me” because the articles I wrote “turned his life upside down.”

No smoking gun? Lol. Nah, just a huge string of text messages with phone numbers, Paypal addresses, and photographs that only Ben would be able to send. You lot truly are fascinating in a fucking sickening way, “Mickey.”

What is sick is harassing people's business that has nothing to do with anything involving you.

That's okay, I see you also went over and flagged one of my post. Next summer I am going to be investing some money into steem....I will be sure to pay back the favor, it's not going to be hard to climb above you.

Awesome. I wish I gave a fuck, honestly.

I see you flagged my comment, showing your abusive side again I see.

Your working on it then you go off into another triad of insults. You still can't see what YOU did wrong, no amount of insults is going to hide your spin and some of your character traits hidden behind your facade.

Again with the threats grahmn? Lol you are one silly sumbitch.

Remember when he told us he never was issued a threat but said he FELT threatened? Now he's saying his family was threatened again.... smh

Yup, I feel the story has come to a very unclimatic halt. Cause... It was all blown way out of porportion and we have all put waaay too much energy into proving what he is simply proving himself. Dude needs to focus on something else before he gets hooked off stage completely. But haters make the world go round, and it's his perogative to keep this drama going. If it where me I wouldn't keep putting my family out there like that. Is anything sacred to this loon? No, the answer is no.

Funny. I thought you were a “family friend,” but you misspell my name the same exact way that @sunshinebear does. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Koke-trolls getting desperate.

Have fun.

Lol @ replying to yourself on here from different accounts. Dumbass.

Funny, I thought you where a victim

Me too. If the threat is indeed out there and you are aware then continue to battle on another hill. Move forward instead of trying to continue an old battle that was already supposedly won. Not enough evidence then say your peace and move on. Farmer no longer with the campaign then sounds like the victor is easy to see.

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Also no one is replying to them selves but you I'm pretty sure. I'm the dumbass? Lol I see you

You are what? You have a mouse in your pocket?

@Kakfanarchy84 is a joke. He just keeps on proving it. I was wondering the same thing about that contest. @kakfanarchy84 u have some splainin to do!!!

Yeah what is that about? Mr humanitarian over here. Guess his funding fell through?..... Nah just an immature little guy "trying" to look as though he is doing big things. Uugh it's exhausting exposing such a little guy. I just think he is making the world a worse place while playing Mr Zen. Hell, maybe he actually doesn't realize how awful he is...

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