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RE: A Future Filled With Foodscrapers
It is a first world problem in the first place as it is caused by that way of living. It has never been seen on such an extended period of time, outside of such civilization before, only within it. Though natural processes do bring about starvation through its processes, this one is caused and sustained by humans.
Vertical farming is an efficient way of doing agriculture, but what are we to do as humans towards other humans and other animals, plants and full ecosystems in general?
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Agreed. My point was that this problem need innovative solutions and aggricultural revolution can be part of that innovation.
How about nothing? Sometimes the best thing to do is not to do anything at all.
Back in the 1980s I drew up a nonprofit that was intended to lease land from those with extensive holdings, for the purpose of leaving it fallow.
It was more ambitious than my fundraising skillset, and eventually became $1000 investment in worthless bylaws, articles of incorporation, etc.
'Don't just do something. Sit there!' -- Valued Customer.
I love your last quote, this is something I often tell people!?. I take that you live in Alaska, maybe my thoughts were heard from Haida Gwaii!?! LOL!!!
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I was raised in Alaska, and my youth has informed my dotage with the lessons learned there.
Working construction, I have all too often heard the inverse 'Do something, even if it's wrong.' After having to undo, and redo, a few things, I'd much rather take a minute to make sure something is worth doing before undertaking it.
Powerful words of wisdom that come with the experiential knowledge behind it. Can't beat that with a stick right?!. Awesome!!!
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Agree with that. We have technology and knowledge to feed 10 billion people. Vertical farming have a future with hydroponics /aquaponics /aeroponics, but not in foodscrapers. Foodscrapers are not practical.
They are practical in building a centralized area where human can use less energy and less land surface, especially since the lands of our small planet are being decimated by our careless encroachment, destroying our own ecosystem.
Using a building constructed with sustainable material would allow us to use the technologies available through the uprise of efficient hydroponics, aquaponics and aeroponics systems within the building construction, therefore building as sustainable a construction as is in the engineering of its social, environmental and energy impact on the planet and all of its inhabitants. Meanwhile, the natural ecosystems around us would have some time to recover from our on-slaught over the passed centuries thus re-establishing and solidifying the natural cycles from which life emerged and thrived.
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The vertical farm from the clip looked like 1 floor storage space.
There is a reason for the high rents of office space in skyscrapers. It is hard to build very high buildings, and it is expensive to maintain them. When we build more than 10 storey building there are only two materials - steel and reinforced concrete (not environmental friendly). There will be also high electricity consumption for water. We need pumps to push the water to reservoir on 15 floor then other pumps to deliver the water from 15 to 30 floor, etc. I am sure there also will be problems with air conditioning. I think it is just not sustainable to use high building for a farm. Low buildings with glass roofs or artificial lights will be better. Humans occupy less than 5% of the land mass of the planet we have space for hydroponics.
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Furthermore...
For the moment, most of the material used to make high rise is in deed underlined in your note just above, but loads of new materials are arising and finding their way into structures of all sizes and 3-D designed printed. According to the researches made on the use of skyscrapers of all sort, we could use such building strictly for agricultural necessities and water could be either brought up and/or gathered as well. Many options of energy alternatives are offered and already running on the front. the buildings themselves wouldn't need to be containing any offices. the use of wind gathered within the buildings' structures allows for electricity generation and thus providing for all energy consumptions necessary for water/air pumping, when needed and where moisture, water and heat is needed as per arcology principles, see Arcosanti publications.
Great conversation, by the way, thanks a lot for this as it is such an important topic we need to tackle as a civilization.
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Yes great conversation. It is true we impacting the whole planet. By 5% I mean concentrated urban population. There is a lot of space around the cities not occupied by wild life. We can use hydroponics and vertical farms in the suburban area. Skyscrapers for food is just not the way in my opinion. Nations build skyscrapers mostly for prestige not because they need them so badly... There are new materials. Nanotubes are promising but we can’t manufacture them in big industrial scale. No buildings from nanotubes any time soon...
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