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RE: Emergency Plane Landing Shows Idiocy of Flat Earth Thought: Refuting Flat Earth Memes #1

in #flatearth7 years ago (edited)

I appreciate the upvote. Hopefully you feel the same way when I drop this truth bomb on you. If you are truly a seeker, this should make you question your belief system ENTIRELY. But if you are merely confirming your bias, you will likely ignore it, as flat earthers do, because..... for accepting such a failed and easily disprovable model, they simply cannot be truth seekers. One can be a globe SKEPTIC and be a truth seeker, but not a flat earther, as it's so easily and handily disproven by thousands of bits of inconvenient facts that flat earthers MUST ignore in order to be flat earthers.

That's why they never want to PROVE the earth is flat, because they can't. They go against thousands of years of science (that they do not even bother to look up) and THEY have the 'burden of proof' to prove the earth is flat, but they never do. They simply use bad math and science to put the globe in doubt. But they NEVER EVER pay attention to the thousands of reasons why flat earth is a FAR FAR worse model. Instead, they accept it unquestioningly.

A RATIONAL position might be something like, "I have a LOT of questions about this globe earth model, but the Flat earth model obviously doesn't work. So, in the meantime, I'll just keep questioning globe earth and try to understand why the model doesn't seem to be working. Maybe there is something I'm missing, or maybe it's neither flat nor round, or there is some other explanation for both models to seem to have so many problems that I might be missing".

It's completely irrational to have 'questions' about a globe earth, but then wholeheartedly ACCEPT a model that is provably FAR FAR worse... and then pile on all sorts of incredible non-science based explanations on top of your failed model to force it to 'fit' into your bias.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to do 'tests' on a failed model. What these people are doing when they do these 'tests' on a failed model is confirming their bias. They are literally PRETENDING that they are doing 'tests'.

It should be fantastically easy to come up with a flat map of a flat world when we have all of the GPS coordinates and distances between points already mapped out for you. The problem is.. is that we don't LIVE on a flat earth. That's why the globe model works so well, why the math for it is built into every GPS system in the world, as well as air autopilot systems, driverless car autopilot system, ship autopilot systems, handheld navigation devices, and every smart phone. And that we live on a round eaerth is why flat earthers cannot come up with a map that even has correct distances between points.

Can you really not see how this is true? That in thousands of years, with all of the modern info we have, with Auto Cad, advanced graphics, computer programs with advanced math and graphics, universities with advanced mathematical programs, etc. that NO ONE has been able to put the math into a computer to get a flat map that is correct? It literally should be fantastically easy. A kid in high school who is above average and questioning the round earth model should have already done it by now. No need for any photos from space. The globe earth map was not created with photos from space. It was created long before even FLIGHT was achieved... because thinking people are able to put such concepts together... but I know you just mentioned that because flat earthers seem to be unable to make a point without bringing up NASA. It's a fallback non-sequitur to which flat earthers base their entire belief system.

Think about that for a minute... or a LOT longer than a minute. With all of the info on the planet at our disposal. With all of the GPS coordinates and known points, with all of the distances between points known.. flat earthers can't put that info into a computer program to come up with a MAP!

There is absolutely no need for photos from space for you to create a map. Seriously. I honestly can't even believe that you think you'd need photos from space to create a map when you have 100% of the information needed to create one in a computer program.

Hell, most of you don't even BELIEVE SPACE EXISTS! So your demand that you need pictures from space before you can make a map makes your map impossible! How convenient for you!

But please share with me why you think you need a photo from space to create a map? What information would that provide you that NOT having such information has brought all flat earth mapmaking to an utter halt without? All the while... millions are using speroidal math in their GPS's to get around the planet perfectly.

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You see a dude with a hand-drawn map on a SQUARE piece of paper, with a square Antarctica/ice wall, not done by auto-cad or any other program that anyone can actually check his distances, drawn without longitude and latitude, without a scale of measurements... and you accept it without any question! LOL.

Not to mention that there are virtually NO Flat earthers using this map, but instead using the Azimuthal projection map for their thought experiments.

If this is THE correct flat earth map, why isn't even the FLAT earth community accepting this? (Hint: it might be because it's a hand drawn map on a square piece of paper.)

Also, it CERTAINLY doesn't explain and is in direct contrast to:

MIrror image sundials in northern and southern hemispheres
24 hour days at all the far outside points of his map, all at the same time on their summer solstice, while the CENTER of the map is in darkness during that time
The circumnavigation of Antarctica
The sun setting due west everywhere on the planet on the spring equinox
Star trails in the northern hemisphere going different directions from star trails in ALL countries of the southern hemisphere, and also different at the equator
Why people in the outside edge of that map see all the same stars, spinning in the same direction, but in the CENTER of that map, they see different stars spinning in the opposite direction.
Mirror image equatorial mount telescopes for the different hemispheres
Why the moon appears one direction in the CENTER of that map, but upside down at far outer points of the map.

and I'd have to see his model of the sun and moon over it to see if it explains seasonality, how the sun sets minutes earlier at the bottom of tall buildings, moon phases, etc.

But SOOOO many things still wrong with his map. For instance, until it's on a computer program with correct distances and latitude and longitude, there's no way to tell if it can explain current sea and sailing routes, flight routes, etc.

But it's VERY weird that you accept a dude on YouTube's hand drawn map as THE OFFICIAL MAP OF FLAT EARTH without even being ABLE to check distances, longitude, latitude and such... but REJECT OUTRIGHT thousands of years of science on the topic, accurate globes with accurate distances that explain all of the above, that GPS uses spheroidal math and helps millions of people accurately navigate the earth properly every day, and thousands of other phenomenon that we see every day.

See why you guys have no credibility? You require THOUSANDS of times more evidence for round earth as you do for flat earth. We have a model that explains EVERYTHING that I mentioned perfectly... but without even being ABLE to test this model, you accept it UNCONDITIONALLY as FACT and correct, even though the model CANNOT explain the things that I mentioned just on it's face.

Can you see how irrational and illogical that is?

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