Proposing a Constructive and Educational Renaming of 'Flagging/Downvoting'!steemCreated with Sketch.

in #flagthetrendingpage8 years ago (edited)

Time to Destroy the STEEMIT Nobility!

Inspired by @riskdebonair's .. A Trenders Flag Guild?

If there is no other way to end collusion ..

Then we must act against unjustified rewards, with the tools we have! This should be quite separate from attacking a user for misbehaving - plagiarism, tag abuse .. and whatever else I do not care about. :) I stand by my suggestion that "Downvotes / Flagging" which has a negative impact on another users reputation and visibility should cost the downvoter - not the first time this has been mentioned, but perhaps a slightly different spin, detailed here .. https://steemit.com/steemit/@kurtbeil/upvotes-benefit-the-upvoter-downvotes-should-cost

However, as @riskdebonair has pointed out, very clearly, there are posts that are receiving a difficult to justify share of the rewards pool, and the posters enjoy this on a regular basis .. ie. every f***ing time they post! :) We should be able to act against the reward of the post, without attacking the person's reputation, or the visibility of the post - which is highly-subjective censorship.

If the ability to reduce rewards is indeed a necessary and positive aspect of STEEMonomics, then we must be able to act in this manner, without making it personal. Users need to be educated as to the benefit, and the action must be named in a way that does not create a negative reaction in the mind of the affected, the posters whose rewards are being reduced. I believe this type of "downvote" should be called something else ..

  • Depreciate?
  • Equalize?
  • Rebalance?
  • Replenish?
  • Return to Pool? derrrr

Limited Use?

This obviously can be abused, so 'if it is technically possible', perhaps limiting the ability to perform this action, over a period of time, or make such flagging independent of stake - make it equally weighted, based on the amount of reward and time left to the end of the curation period?

3 Types of Flags!!!???

  1. Warning (no effect)

  2. Flagging (impact to reputation and the visibility of posts - effect is relative to stake, however this one will cost you! the steem or sbd spent would be burned .. if again, that really is a benefit to the economy - not an expert! :)).

  3. Downvote (Return Rewards to the Pool - no impact to reputation or visibility of the post, simply voicing ones opinion that the post is not worth what it has made - 1 user 1 equally weighted deprecation).

Sound good? .. OR ..



Thanks for taking time to give me a read!
- @kurtbeil




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flagging should be deleted from the code
it serves no useful purpose.

We could have a flag guild in which we can delegate our SP to one account. This account will have 25 rep and so have no effect on other users rep.
It can be used in the same sense of curation. Read and downvote/flag if required.

Or just take a bit of their rep anyway to counter all the bonus rep gained.

I dig it risk .. but, guilds are actually the perps in my steemview :)
The other question is .. could such a guild handle the volume, once usersbase ramps up? Possibly yes, if you focus on the trending page .. but one wonders what that will look like when we have 10 000 posts per day .. 50 000 .. 100 000?

.. would people really delegate their money-making power, that they would otherwise use for curation, to such a policing effort? Perhaps!

Any which way, this is a good direction to be thinking in!

When we grow and have a large increase of new users we won't need the Trenders Flag Guild, voting power will be more spread giving us a better trending page.
But for now while our numbers aren't so big a guild could do the trick in increasing growth towards the guild no longer being needed.

ahhh.. did not think of that! You are correct sir, it would be a necessary to make things more meatier for the new users, as we rise .. which will also aid the rise!

Genius really.

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I feel like this kind of proposals (or the abit experiment) are workarounds that can't really fix the reward distribution.
Some of the more rewarded posts are simple copy/paste of price graphs, or news re-written with other words, while there's a sea of undervalued and original content. I can explain this only with bots + curation rules, but I could be wrong.
Of course a workaround is better than nothing, so, thank you for your inputs.

I agree the downvote needs to be available without the butt hurt that flagging attaches.

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