I rarely flag posts. IN fact, even though you call me a fucker and a flaggot in this post, I am not going to flag it.
I flagged alexa's post not because I dont think she ought to be allowed to post pornography, but because of her stated intnetion to deliberately circumvent the NSFW filter.
If I post adult content & put NSFW as first tag, it gets hidden/censored from everyone's feed and doesn't show up on my blog.
So I tried posting it still including "NSFW" tag, but not as first tag...... and I get flagged.
BULLSHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
FUCK CENSORSHIP.
Her stated position is clear. She doesnt like the NSFW filter, so shes going to circumvent it.
I think people ought to be able to post porn if they wish to do so, but i don't think it ought to be inflicted on people who aren't looking to see it. As long as it is, intend to flag it if i see it.
Yeah your right that was a bit trollish the way he said that. The thing is the NSFW filter is flawed because it literally takes it off the steemit.com website; Which makes it only view able by using TOR. If she put it under the NSFW filter it will cause it to were she wont even be able to look at it.
Really developers are working this out right now. In time they will make a check box for turning adult content on or off. Until then just don't open post that say NSFW.
IIUC, posts tagged NSFW are visible to people looking at the NSFW tag... which is the way it ought to be. for example there are many first-tagged nsfw posts in here https://steemit.com/created/nsfw
What we have is opt-in system, where you have to go looking in the "back room of the video store" if you want to see the porn.
What alexa seems to want is an opt-out system, where people have to ask not to have porn show up on their feed and she can spam everyone else.
Yeah but if were really honest here that is a form of censorship. Since the newsfeed is actually being divided, that is segregation; Segregation is a form of censor ship of a certain thing. Racism is a form of censorship of a certain color of skin or a nations personalities. Again the internet does not have this.
The "back of the room of the video store" is the old days when porn was segregated (AKA Censorship) from the rest of mainstream society. It's 2016, half the internet is filled with porn, the internet does not have segregation/censorship, I would like to keep it that way.
If everyone had the power to censor or put one part of the internet in the "back of the room" then the internet would be censored as fuck! That is what a fantasy is, a distorted reality. Filters are fine, because they are consciously choosing the reality you want to see; That is mastery! Mastery is the mute button or the filter to not see any NSFW material (Still needs to be created by devs)!
Repressing people is what really creates the most danger! Think of what the drug war and prohibition effects were on society! The "wealthiest" people with power of this world already distort reality too much as is.
This is not about just this post that @alexanova made or even about her joining in the first place; This just happened to be the crossroad that brought up this issue. Even having the ability to flag in the first place is already to close to censorship.
But I do believe in respecting each persons creation by giving the credit to it (Copyright). There is such that as a troll that recklessly attack for no reason, so I do believe that people should be able to stop abuse.
Yet even with liking that, I still feel mixed about the ability to flag someone; How easily it could become for individuals to become corrupt with power and abuse the flag system. That is why we need to have a better consensus of the proper way to use the flag system.
It is completely understandable why everyone is using the flag just based on there perspective of right and wrong.
oh so you feel porn is ok to post as long as the posters post never comes up on feeds?
well i want any post that has the letter "R" in it hidden, because of r"reasons" and fweelings". you have a mute button, what people want to tag their posts with is their choice. if i want to post pornpicts and use the tag news or politices i should be able to as maybe my art has the tags as part of it.
none the less, you are saying
So you are saying you are ok with porn if no one can see it. well that's fucking retarded flaggot bullshit. don't click the link and don't scroll through the post. mute the people you don't want to see.
The fact of it all is i don't care about the porn, i care that the point of this site is freedom of speech and no censorship. The flags proves that not to be true and the moment it is a fact that steemit is pro censorship we will watch it die with in a week or 2.
When i first showed up it was flagging for using curse words, then it was "this or that" and so on. next wee it will be people that say bad stuff about religion or people that don agree on safe schools and brain washing kids.
You cant pick and choose who gets censored and when, its either freespeech or censorship. cant have both.
flagged for personal insults and profanity
that said
theres a big difference. If you don't get it, i dont know what to tell you.n I really can't explain it any more simply than i already have.
No, porn shouldnt be visible to users not looking specifically for it.
Oh I see your friends with beanz. tell her I said hi and that I find it funny that it is the same group of feminist flaggets at it again flagging me.
Good job. this might be more fun then I though.
Gives me a reason to bring up links to all my old posts about beanz and her crew of flaggots.
cheers!
Thanks for pointinout that you are flagging my posts and removing the pay out as you have the most steem power out of anyone that has upvoted my post.
You must be proud of your flaggot self.
LOL
I dont have anything personally against Beanz, though i don't know her very well. I have actually called her out (and others on the steemit abuse channel) on multiple occassions for what i felt was an inappropriate flag.. including that steem stats poster. Ultimately, i have the same problem with beanz and steemit abuse that i have with you -- i don't think either one of you should be able to tell people how to vote.
Just like everyone else, i get to vote on payout. I voted against your post.
I actually have less SP than 5 people who upvoted your post. Normally, my flag would have cost you about a penny out of the 12 cents you made. But since it happened after payout, it didnt even do that.
Yes, i think it is ultimately a positive contribution to the platform to flag material thats harmful. Like profane, personal insults. You shouldnt get to call people faggots or fuckers or things like that. So i guess I am proud of myself. Also, lets face it, im generally awesome.
I have another 60K steem power or so i can bring to bear, that I havent. Because its dickish and because I dont actually have a copy of the CLI running and its not worth the effort to get one up.
I think your sarcasm detector might be broken. It might help if you read the whole debate that led up to the post where i compared myself Jesus.
Obviously, I don't want people to downvote me at all, regardless of the reason. If someone does downvote me (as people have in the past), i might even think they had made a bad decision.
But i certainly think it was their decision to make. If you want to downvote my posts, go right ahead. If you want to encourage others to do so, thats certainly your perogative. If you can do so without using any patently offensive slurs, or saying i should fuck myself, I won't even downvote you when you do it.
That said, i don't think you'll find very much support for purely retributive flagging.
Of course, sooner or later, ill get sick of the high road and start flagging you back just for being you. You can't very well start a dick punching contest and not expect to get punched in the dick.
gold!
Keep going and bragging about all this. I love it.
You start posts out saying people say your like jesus and you say stuff like
LMFAO!!!
So keep it up proving my point more and more. or maybe run back and edit it all. lol
fuck your steem power, it means nothing to me. I find it pathetic you even bragg about it like I should tremble in fear from it.
So it is a vote, not a flag used for copypasta or child porn or tag abuse only and we can use it in subjective ways? Are you saying it is ok for everyone to flagg you for subjective reasons?
Please say yes as I have never had some one give me permission on the block chain to have open session on there posts with flags let alone telling all of steemit to go crazy with flags on your posts over subjective "reasons". I would be in awe if that is what you are advocating for.
I doubt it though as im sure you know as well as I do that you dontwant people flagging you over subjective reasons.
or maybe you do, fucked if I know anymore with the shit I have seen on steemit. im not talking about porn either.
nope no difference, you are flagging out of opinion. something subjective.
No posts with the letter "R" sould be visible unless they are looking for it.
Stupid logic.
-smfh-
no posts with the letter "R" is an entirely arbitrary distinction. Porn is not. Its been recognized as a special case by the supreme court, and by most websites and publishers.
Basically what youre saying is that because anyones' opinion is subjective, then no one should be allowed to vote their opinion. I disagree.
If you wanted to downvote any posts with the letter R in the title, incidentally, i would support your right to do so. But id also do my best to vote in opposition to make sure no ones posts were hidden because of it.
To you, like and dislike of porn is subjective just as like an dislike of the letter "R" is subjective. They hold the same weight as something to censor if it is subjective. Some people find curse words bad, some don't. Some think talking bad about religion is wrong, also subjective.
You keep calling it a vote. and now you just saidyou think I should be able to flag every post with an r in it.
Thank you for giving me my favorite quote from you yet.
You are trying to start flag wars with the rhetoric you preach. its funny as hell.
Also refer to my reply about calling and acting like it is a down vote and not a flag.
also, she learned her lesson about the tags and isn't doing that any more. to continue flaging when it is not misuse of tags, not copy pasta and not illegal content like murder or child porn then it is censorship for something subjective like offence from the letter "R". Just as retarded as flagging for curse words.
Fuck off with that noise.
As far as im concerned, any NSFW post that appears on the trending page (which is the landing page for potential new users) falls under the classification of "intentionally miscategorized"
what if the first pict isn't nsfw and it says it in the title? one would have to click the post to see it. Also it wouldn't be on the landing page unless people wanted it there with the upvotes.
Why is "intentionally miscategorized" a problem?
I think people should be able to tag what ever they want but I do agree it would be for the best if people tagged correctly. At the same time if you make your first tag nsfw is basically invisible to anyone that is not already following. no way to get new followers if that is the case. again falls under censorship imo.
a post that lands on the trending page should be there as proof that its about actual trending posts. so now you are telling me all the tag feeds are censored of anything that has nsfw in the first tag. damn censorship up thass for a site that claims to be censorship free.