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RE: Let's Have a Discussion on: Self Voting and Flagging

in #flagging7 years ago

As a community we need a way to stop people posting links to articles, copied work, or non-original videos for Steem. If you go to the new section for most tags there's so much bullshit(I really try to search new often), however, I don't believe someone upvoting themselves constitutes spam. It's a self promotion tool, like minnowsupport or having friends resteem you. Before we debate this though let's focus on getting rid of article linkers, plagiarism and people just posted random videos.

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The only thing on Steemit that should promote you is quality content, thats it plain and simple. Using tricks like self voting is like allowing lobbying in politics. Steemit must be organic , free market and a meritocracy or it will not work long term.

Is self voting a trick if I like my own content? I wouldn't post something if I didn't like it.

Objective systems like blockchain are designed to remove human weakness from decision making, you know like ego? Have you read the post where the guy showed he can double his holdings in 180 days from $83k to $166k by only self voting. Lets be serious here how can you defend that? Saying you wouldn't post something you don't like yourself is stating the obvious, not really a counter point, in a free market you can like your own product as much as you want if other people don't then you crash and burn simple.

To get such a high doubling you'd need funds saved or to invest a large sum. Both of which we want. If you're doubling only a few dollars, who cares?

Every system out there allows the self vote and I see nothing wrong with it. It's been allowed by the devs and with two accounts or a friend one could do the same thing. All disallowing it does is help people willing to end rules. Also with a stable user base/price you won't see such doubling as Steem on the market will grow decreasing the price per Steem.

This is a good example of the split in opinion on this platform. Because Steemit is both a creative platform and a good investment it has two clear sets of users. Ones who put alot of effort into content and creativity and ones who put alot of capital in, both who feel they deserve reward. It will be interesting to see how it pans out, personally I think its a problem that can't be resolved. The platform has already changed enormously in the past couple of months with the price of Steem rocketing, as the price of Steem has risen so the quality of content has decreased.

This is very true. There is a lack of quality compared to similar paying content on other platforms. I think part of the problem is you need content creators who are also interested in cryptocurrency. On YouTube or Instagram my posts are worth very little, but the same post here earns me $20 - $100. I'm overpaid but compared to others here I might even be underpaid. This is a problem any platform has though. Initially the early adopters become powerful no matter how deserving.

Edit: Do you think a reinvest in myself button could solve things?

Explain how that what would work, reinvest in myself, sounds interesting?

Instead of people making all these bullshit posts let them just take the potential interest and lose their voting power. The issue would be it could kill Steem if everyone just took that option. The idea definitely needs work, but at least you wouldn't have whale circle jerks where newbies see two sentence posts making hundred or even thousands and get discouraged.

I have to agree with you - my feed is filling up with video reposts from non-authors! They don't present it as original work, but I'm tired of having to un-follow potentially promising but stumbling new content creators due to feed overload. Incidentally, I wish I could filter resteems to a different tab, but C'est La Vie.

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