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RE: Clarification for some people RE: Flag vs Down Vote
I think I already said it before:
Reduce flagging impact to 1/10 of upvotes.
Spam will still get downvoted enough.
But someone on a rampage will only lave a few creaking doors, but no burned villages.
Spam cannot be effectively countered by a system that has to recharge voting power, someone can spam endlessly and bottleneck the system because these things can add up in a matter of hours, think about it, I can create a huge post and spam that numerous times, granted my content will be hidden there is nothing to stop the spam or counter it, and it's pathetic to attempt to do such a thing and waste one's voting power.
If downvotes are 1/10 of an upvote, then 'abusive' upvotes cannot be countered. This means the whale 'non-voting' experiment couldn't work.
Sadly the whales non-voting experiment should have been done at the code level. The counter acting votes for that experiment should not have been needed.
However, that was what I was hinting at in terms of exploits. If a person could exploit and gain 10 for their exploit and all the person opposing them could counter is 1 then that is still a profit of 9.
Sounds kind of like the Well's Fargo situation... scam billions from people and be fined only a couple hundred million. Nice profit margin, let's do it again.
But by (code) definition there are no abusive upvotes.
There are only upvotes you don't like.
Yep, but my main issue here is that I've seen people talk about the flag to be answered that it is an easy "UI Fix" When the issue the people they are talking to have with it actually has nothing to do with the UI other than the label they are giving the icon.
I'd be willing to try anything. If it works keep it. If it fails revert it.
I don't think your solution would actually solve the current problem as the people doing the down voting are way more than 10x as powerful as the people they down vote. In fact they are not even having to do close to a 100% down vote at the moment.
So if power were more evenly distributed that might actually help some. As it currently stands it won't do anything to the heaviest wielders of flags.
It also counters the ability to use it fight exploits, which is the only reason I haven't been calling for Up Votes only anymore.
If the "power of the masses" cannot counter a 1/10 then it cannot counter the whales in whatever way, except a "socialist" one account one vote policy. Which would mean thousands of bots just voting after one main account.
With the current curve the big whales are more powerful than thousands of smaller users. Perhaps 10s of thousands. It depends upon what the average power of the smaller users is.
With the new curve they are talking about (linear) then the difference is not as huge... but it is still bigger than 10x.
Take for example... Bernie... he is said to wield generally around 1.5 million steem power.
I am not quite to 15,000 steem power and I am not a smaller person. That means he is currently on a LINEAR curve 100x more powerful than me. It would take 100 of me to counter him. Currently we have the exponential curve so the difference is FAR larger than this. Thousands of me could not counter him at the moment.
You are at about 1082 (almost) at the time I write this. Bernie with delegated power from his various accounts is just shy of 1.5 million as I write this. That makes him a little over 1386 times as powerful as you.
Reduce that by a 10th and he is still 138.6 times more powerful.
The 10th sounds good until you start doing the math and see just how vast the power differences actually are.