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RE: The Weaponization of Social Security against families
This has to be one of the most absurd advice I've heard anybody give someone. It's just going to make the problem worse by being defiant.
This has to be one of the most absurd advice I've heard anybody give someone. It's just going to make the problem worse by being defiant.
@sunlit7, it seems as though you consistently have a problem with the advice given in Family Protection posts. If we can't seek out some way to defend ourselves, what then?
The advice to dutifully comply is already given at every opportunity. If it were useful to those involved in Family Protection activities, there would be no Family Protection posts. Lack of defiance - or even reasonable defense - is part of what has caused the massive overreach issues in the first place.
Non-compliance is difficult, costly, and uncomfortable. No one swims upstream unless there is serious reason to do so. Being told to swim back downstream is really not helpful.
Concerning this post cooperation is always better then defiance. One would only be digging themselves further into the hole going to court using the advice this person gave. Advice like this has never served tax evaders any good it's certainly not going to help someone who has lost their kids. It's going to send the parent out of the courtroom after being told when you decide to cooperate we'll schedule another hearing, it's only going to prolong the time it takes to get their kids back. This advice is so out of the loop the judge may even consider one's mental health as being unstable, thank goodness that unlike a tax evader at least a person spieling this before a judge couldn't get sent to prison like a tax evader would. There is good advice and there's bad advice, if someone's kids have already been removed now wouldn't be a good time to make this spiel before a judge.
I see - initially in reading through I thought this was advice to someone who'd already gotten their kids back but was looking to pursue action against those who had traumatized them.
I agree: going in with guns blazing when you don't have your kids safe in your hands would more than likely blow the entire thing up in your face.
It's the same reason I would never go to jail for parenting decisions if I could help it - meaning, I wouldn't "stand on my rights" while my kids are in danger because my first and greatest concern is maintaining my protection of them, which is impossible from jail.
Exactly, putting all your effort into focusing on the kids and getting them back I agree is best, it's no time to go off being a social justice warrior for the causes unrelated at said time. Stand your ground but not when your children are in peril.
Absurd? No its absurd that an agency is given power to TAKE from people. When a persons rights are violated they have little recourse. That is absurd.
That being said I'm not advocating violence nor defiance, this is the way the provisions are written. Compliance ( with agency) equals consent. You litterally have to drag your feet and fight, screaming you do not consent all the way.
Yeah well a lot of people have their own interpretation of whats been written and they've gone to prison over it. Tax evaders come to mind, kicking and screaming all the way to their cells.
Ok. I can understand that. We are talk about :
An agency that is created under executive branch that
Denies right to trial among peers
Compels use of SSN
Acts via contract with state and county authorities
Takes children
Defrauds families saying there was a "judge" when there was a judge hired to act as a commissioner. Outside mind you of civil or criminal court.
This is very different then evading taxes.