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RE: Europe's Quid pro Quo

in #europe4 years ago

not quite.
"In 212 AD, during the reign of Caracalla, Roman citizenship was granted to all freeborn inhabitants of the empire. But despite this gesture of universality, the Severan dynasty was tumultuous—an emperor's reign was ended routinely by his murder or execution—and, following its collapse, the Roman Empire was engulfed by the Crisis of the Third Century, a period of invasions, civil strife, economic disorder, and plague."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire#Fall_in_the_West_and_survival_in_the_East

we dont give citizenship to people born in europe, and we routinely send refugees back to countries that are classified safe (even tho countries like afghanistan are not actually safe yet classified safe and syria safe but not classified safe). thats the US. also since US has such lax weapon laws and is a gigantic bundle of states that are united, the "turmoil" seems more likely to happen there.

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So, is the answer immigration reform? I would say that is a problem, like you said, if they send back safe refugees. Sadly, too many Christians are persecuted for example in the Middle East, in Syria, and especially Iran. The Christian church is growing faster than other religions globally in Iran specifically. But they are underground churches. House churches. When Rome granted citizenship to too many people and persuaded them towards larger cities and continued inflating the money and increased welfare, then that caused continual damage to their empire. @Stefan.Molyneux makes great videos that talks about those things.

germany did immigration reform this month... anyone who finds work in germany is now elligible for work visa, meaning people who get refused in refugee application can find work and stay anyway... still deportations of afghans i believe was illegal and broke geneva convention... also there is currently no legal way of immigrating to europe, hence the illegal immigration over dangerous routes instead of simply taking a plane... i would wish that you could apply as refugee from a foreign embassy, then also passportless persecuted could apply, such as uigurs, who are not allowed to own a passport...

Germany is also dying at the same time thanks to who might be like a daughter of Hitler.

the one who might be the daughter of hitler? what did ivanka trump do in germany? im guessing trump is killing nato and EU-US relationships but what did ivanka do? actually thats a serious question. what is her job even...

Do you like NATO or do you prefer nationalism for each country?

id prefer European army and have the middle east trouble makers like UK US and Turkey out of the equation. Probably only reason we dont have that already is because the western european states dont want to spend more on military, which is necessary in order for eastern european countries to remain chill about russia. russia is not going to hate EU if its arch rival US is not part in the team, but its still good to be on the safe side as leadership and mentality can change quick, and a war should even if lost be destructive enough to both economies to be not worth it.

So, you trust bigger government? Is Brexit crazy?

well brexit will pinch a bit in EU economy, but might be good to have less war mongering in the group... plus they seem more close to US than EU, so it might be for the better (for EU at least)... also they leave because they like the benefits of EU but not the freedom of movement and immigrants... they cant cherrypick benefits, because EU is supposed to be about solidarity and stuffs... scottland tho is chill so they will probably leave the UK and join EU later on, so nothing to worry about... northern ireland is probably according to boris johnnsons deal gonna stay in EU or EEA while remaining in UK (meaning that UK will have within its country a border)... whales got fucked over and they have no say since they did not join voluntarily UK like scottland did.... england just gets what they chose to have so ill let them enjoy their anti-immigration and anti-EU view points...

I trust EU more than i trust US... media likes to twist news stories in favor for US aggression (no matter if obama or trump), screwing up our democracy, making people cheer for the aggression, while if you do a little digging you see how fucked up this actually is and how little they actually telling you... people like greta thunberg have shown that EU is not forsaken and there are ways to twist and turn wheels for better europe... reso for example increased youth voting rates by a bunch by only 1 viral video, causing the green party to have about as much votes all the sudden as the christian conservative party in germany (party of merkel)... this has a large impact on EU since germany is 1/5th of EU population... US on the otherhand has an election system that by design (look up MMP voting system in contrast) only is stable if there are only 2 parties to vote, and they have the freedom of choosing presidents that are not necessarily morally good nor good for the people... also with many conservatives in US (which is about half of the country) its impossible to argue with as many are detached from reality... also US elections are rarely about international relations, because people only care if they are going to be more well off with that president... EU and German elections tho have a healthy competition...

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