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RE: the bible is real and YHWH is the one true god, now what?

in #ethics • 5 years ago (edited)

We cannot get to objective morality without scientifically quantifying human wellbeing. (edit: i think ultimate morality might even extend past just human wellbeing)... We would also have to separate identity and ideology - something that religion relies on to survive against all opposing evidence. I tend to agree with Sam Harris's take on morality - he believes that there is an objective and absolute morality out there... but we haven't discovered how to demonstrate it in an objective, scientific manner...

As far as words on a page go, i still haven't heard a convincing argument of why is the bible more credible than any other fictitious story... Are we giving it more prominence because it was written so long ago? Using the bible to prove there is god is the same as using comicbooks 500 years from now to prove that spiderman exists/ed.

Also what is the "perfect book"? what metric do we use to arrive to such a conclusion? Oh wait... there is that...

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    The main "problem" with "objective morality" is that humans are fundamentally subjective beings.

    The "Christian bible" isn't the slightest bit credible, I'm merely pointing out that even if you accepted it as 100% true, it still wouldn't do you any good.

    Thanks for the video clip!

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    I finally squeezed this out of my interlocutor,

    Today, in modern times the lesson is,

    1. To obey the laws of the land,
    2. To not hold a grudge personally but to love not only our neighbours but our enemies,
    3. To not seek an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth,
    4. That these Ten Commandments are still binding but mercy is also at play.
      Jesus even elaborates on two of them, adultery and what that means, and hatred and anger in relation to murders.
    5. Jesus has met the letter of the law for the believer. He has satisfied its righteousness on behalf of those who have faith and trust in Him.

    Nice!

    So all I have to do is obey the logically incoherent, ever changing, perfectly subjective LAWS OF THE LAND.

    The rest only applies AFTER DEATH.

    And since I was doing this already, basically "The Bible" is WORTHLESS as a day-to-day-real-world guide to "objective" morality. *

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