EOS Amsterdam - EOS Gov Telegram Channel summary August 12 – August 13 2018/ 每日小结8月12日-8月13日
(Summary from 12:00 August 12th till 12:00 August 13th)
Governance:
User Luc Ibata Okalobe: Haven’t been here in a while. Always seems to be a crisis. This time looks like it’s the alliance. Governance is messy I guess. Anyway, came across this thought it's perfect for the EOS community. Market 3.0 http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Market_3.0. Looks like what EOS and Chamapesa are trying to build. User Emma: I assure you that this will not be pursued because it will disempower those who know best what the community needs.
WPS:
User Okayplanet shares the following: https://steemit.com/eos/@okayplanet/why-i-support-worker-proposals User Cesar: Yup! https://blog.ethereum.org/2018/05/02/announcing-may-2018-cohort-ef-grants/ https://blog.ethereum.org/2018/03/07/announcing-beneficiaries-ethereum-foundation-grants/ Some ideas from other blockchains. User Kyle: ‘Nice article and you have a great way of explaining things. With regards to your worry Re: ‘robust BP watchdog tools being built by BPs’, I urge you to look to independent EOS community members and token holders who have self organised and already started building these tools.
EOS BP Compliance
EOS Voter proxies
Controlling Hand’
Okayplanet: Thanks, Kyle. I’m familiar with their work and would love it if there was a system for community to reward their efforts. Kyle: ‘Fair comment. I also feel a lot of community members work deserves to be rewarded.
But when voting is the method of deciding distribution of these funds; it’s hard to square that particular circle. Those with the most tokens will likely propose and vote for their own projects and thus funnel the 4% inflation into their own pockets. This would be more damaging to the community. Scrapping it is the lesser of the two evils and is ‘more fair’ to the community as a whole.’
User Sharif Bouktila: ‘My big concern is that without a fund we are reliant on B.1 for updates forever.
Ok - They have vested their 10% for 10 years and verbally committed to keep working on it , but their focus is going to change to DApps , what if one of them balloons to Facebook type scale. 10 years is forever in Technology. A lot will happen in that time.’ Kyle: Surely they’d want to protect their investment? Aligned interests is EOS game theory. Sharif Bouktila:
Today Dan said he’d choose a chain which scraps then 4%, seems like a low bar to set for picking where to deploy. He didn’t say whatever the community wants, or whichever is most performant or secure. It doesn’t smell right. Kyle: It would be nice to hear more details on his reasoning. User Tanish EOSMetal: He mentioned he will write a post as reasoning. When will he write it is a different question. Users Okayplanet, Sharif Bouktila and Kyle are looking forward to it.
User Tanish EOSMetal: I like the idea suggested by Todor for funneling the projects. https://steemit.com/eos/@todor/scaling-the-worker-proposal-distribution-system. An interesting idea though I don’t think it would safeguard corruption, we know how people get their way out.
治理：
用户Luc Ibata Okalobe：有一段时间没有来过这里。似乎总是危机。这一次看起来像是联盟。我想，治理很混乱。无论如何，我觉得这个想法对EOS社区来说是完美的。市场3.0 http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Market_3.0。
看起来EOS和Chamapesa正在努力建立。用户艾玛：我向你们保证，这不会被实现，因为它会剥夺那些最了解社区需求的人的权力。
WPS：
用户Okayplanet分享以下内容：https：//steemit.com/eos/@okayplanet/why-i-support-worker-proposals
用户Cesar：是的！
https://blog.ethereum.org/2018/05/02/announcing-may-2018-cohort-ef-grants/ https://blog.ethereum.org/2018/03/07/announcing-beneficiaries-ethereum-
基金会补助金/其他区块链的一些想法。用户凯尔：'好文章，你诠释的很到位。关于你的担心Re：'由节点人建立的强大的节点监督工具'，我敦促你寻找那些已经开始建立以下这些工具的独立运作的EOS社区成员和自我组织的代币持有者。
EOS 节点服从性
EOS代理投票
控制手
Okayplanet：谢谢，Kyle。我对他们的工作很了解，如果有一个社区系统可以奖励他们的努力，我会很赞同。Kyle：'公平的说。我也觉得很多社区成员的工作值得奖励。
但投票是决定这些资金分配的手段，所以很难将此特别划圈出来。拥有最多代币的人可能会提出并投票支持他们自己的项目，从而将4％的通货膨胀汇集到自己的口袋里。这对社区来说会更具破坏性。废弃它是两个邪恶中较小的一个，对整个社区来说“更公平”。
用户Sharif Bouktila：'我最担心的是，如果没有基金，我们将永远依赖B.1进行更新。
好的 - 他们10年来已经给了10％期权，并且口头承诺继续努力，但他们的重点将转向DApps，如果其中一个膨胀达到Facebook类型规模的话。 10年是技术永远。那段时间会发生很多事情。“Kyle：当然他们想保护他们的投资？对齐的利益是EOS博弈论。Sharif Bouktila：
今天丹说，他会选择一条链，然后取消这4％。他没有说社区想要什么，或者说最具性能或安全性。感觉不太对劲。Kyle：和希望能听到他的更多解释。用户Tanish EOSMetal：他提到他会写一篇文章来解释。他什么时候写，那就是另一个问题了。用户Okayplanet，Sharif Bouktila和Kyle都很期待。
用户Tanish EOSMetal：我喜欢Todor建议的用于汇集项目的想法。 https://steemit.com/eos/@todor/scaling-the-worker-proposal-distribution-system。
一个有趣的想法，虽然我不认为它会监管腐败，我们知道总有人能投机取巧。